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From: Ian Dalziel on 27 Dec 2009 05:44 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:46:19 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: >On 26 Dec, 20:23, wensleyd...(a)pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) >wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> I wonder how many satnav's had their owners running round in circles >> >> when the bridges went down Cockermouth and Workington the other >> >> week and are still sending their owners on wild goose chases ! . >> >> >Hardly a reasonable comment, these were exceptional circumstances but >> >supposing the people had a map instead, it would be just as incorrect, >> >the sat nav owner can download an update, how do you update a map >> >without buying a new one (Admiralty charts excepted). >> >> And when they see that the bridge is out, they will be able to >> re-route with a few button presses. �That's one reason why I still use >> a sat-nav even on a known route (though with the sound turned off) - >> it's a major benefit when things go wrong. >> > >I always run mine, even on a often travelled route, because it gives >an accurate ETA, very useful if you are doing timed deliveries. Does it give you a sensible ETA for deliveries? My Garmin seems to assume I will be travelling at the speed limit everywhere, so the ETA works on trunk routes but is hopelessly optimistic on country roads or in cities. -- Ian D
From: Mr X on 27 Dec 2009 06:12 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:6793fa80-9cd1-4291-981d-1131a771b84d(a)c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Dec, 18:02, "Ophelia" <Ophe...(a)Elsinore.me.uk> wrote: >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> >> news:c25480aa-938f-4e2f-a54d-b4422995a9c9(a)m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Without it I would have has no alternative than to park up until the >> > next day thus it saved a day's downtime paying for it's self in one >> > go. >> >> My Satnav will show the nearest garage/supermarket/whatever, wherever I >> am. > > I'll bet it dosen't show the locastion of 24 hour garages that take > the specific type of diesel card I was holding or those that have fuel > in stock, seeing that many had not had deliveries in the snowy > conditions. Which maps do that? Nothing does that.
From: johnwright ""john" on 27 Dec 2009 06:23 James Martin(a)hgvu.com wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> > wrote: >> On 26 Dec, 11:09, James Mar...(a)hgvu.com wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:11:49 +0000, Roland Perry <rol...(a)perry.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>>> In message <4B35CD53.30C4C...(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com>, at >>>> 08:46:11 on Sat, 26 Dec 2009, johannes >>>> <j...(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> remarked: >>>>>> So how do you navigate through built up areas you don't know? >>>>> I find it easy enough. Looking for features and landmarks learned from maps >>>>> and google earth. E.g. two roundabouts then a school, a railway bridge etc. >>>> That's fine as long as you don't end up a hundred yards the wrong side >>>> of a set of "buses only" bollards, or similar feature. >>>> In a recent discussion of Cambridge, it transpired that to get to the >>>> other side of one similar "obstruction" required a two mile diversion >>>> using exactly the correct roads at every junction. Although maybe a >>>> satnav wouldn't necessarily be up to date with all the "no left turn >>>> except..." and other anti-ratrun devices either (many of which the >>>> Google Streetcar seems to ignore!) >>> I wonder how many satnav's had their owners running round in circles >>> when the bridges went down Cockermouth and Workington the other >>> week and are still sending their owners on wild goose chases ! . >> Hardly a reasonable comment, these were exceptional circumstances but >> supposing the people had a map instead, it would be just as incorrect, >> the sat nav owner can download an update, how do you update a map >> without buying a new one (Admiralty charts excepted). > Which again proves that a satnav is a useless piece of nonsense one > can see a diversion sign on any road and act accordingly but you > people who just love new gadgets will never see that no matter how > useless they are . That comment proves nothing of the kind at all. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: johnwright ""john" on 27 Dec 2009 06:53 Conor wrote: > In article <7pmr6bF7p2U1(a)mid.individual.net>, johnwright says... > >> A very good idea. You may find that many bridge strikes by buses are >> done by drivers of single deck buses asked to drive double deckers. > > And? Still doesn't alter the fact they took no notice of the sign for > the bridge nor the clearly displayed height of their vehicle. Indeed, or are you about to claim that bus drivers like truck drivers are perfect? -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: NM on 27 Dec 2009 06:55
On 27 Dec, 10:44, Ian Dalziel <iandalz...(a)lineone.net> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:46:19 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > wrote: > > > > >On 26 Dec, 20:23, wensleyd...(a)pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) > >wrote: > >> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >> I wonder how many satnav's had their owners running round in circles > >> >> when the bridges went down Cockermouth and Workington the other > >> >> week and are still sending their owners on wild goose chases ! . > > >> >Hardly a reasonable comment, these were exceptional circumstances but > >> >supposing the people had a map instead, it would be just as incorrect, > >> >the sat nav owner can download an update, how do you update a map > >> >without buying a new one (Admiralty charts excepted). > > >> And when they see that the bridge is out, they will be able to > >> re-route with a few button presses. That's one reason why I still use > >> a sat-nav even on a known route (though with the sound turned off) - > >> it's a major benefit when things go wrong. > > >I always run mine, even on a often travelled route, because it gives > >an accurate ETA, very useful if you are doing timed deliveries. > > Does it give you a sensible ETA for deliveries? My Garmin seems to > assume I will be travelling at the speed limit everywhere, so the ETA > works on trunk routes but is hopelessly optimistic on country roads or > in cities. > > -- > > Ian D For my purposes it usually does, I have set the preferences to 'truck' and as most of the deliveries are to supermarket RCD's it's pretty accurate, helped by the fact most RCD's are situated close to motorway junctions. If I use it to cross London then it's a different matter the initial estimate is usually wildly optimistic but it constantly updates. The most useful time function is when there is a hold up on the motorway and I can call ahead to update the RCD as to my delivery slot, as some supermarket chains 'fine' hauliers for arriving outside their slot this can save money. |