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From: Ian on 28 Dec 2009 15:54 "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.25a07ea758678c28989ac3(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In article <7pmqjaF3tsU2(a)mid.individual.net>, johnwright says... >> >> Conor wrote: >> > In article <b3sbj59mngokd2micj64mu4ou3dn5k941n(a)4ax.com>, Cynic >> > says... >> >> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:50:01 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> You appear to believe that it is possible to select perfect >> >>>> drivers >> >>>> who will never make mistakes rather than accepting that >> >>>> mistakes are >> >>>> inevitable and attempting to reduce the consequences of such >> >>>> mistakes. >> >> >> >>> Hitting a low bridge isn't a "mistake" but sheer incompetency. >> >> Semantics. You could say the same about a person who sugars his >> >> tea >> >> twice. >> >> >> >> It is possible for a driver who is usually competant to make an >> >> incompetant mistake. The more experience you have, the less >> >> likely it >> >> is. Unfortunately it is not possible to demand that everyone >> >> who >> >> drives on the roads has thousands of hours of experience driving >> >> in >> >> diverse situations in the particular vehicle. >> > >> > Hitting a low bridge is not a mistake. You have to deliberately >> > ignore >> > the signs. >> >> Its also about knowing the vehicle you're driving. > > A lorry and a bus have the height clearly marked in the cab. > For various values of "clearly". And +/- 6" (in practice!!) for accuracy of height.
From: Ian on 28 Dec 2009 16:05 "johannes" <johs(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com> wrote in message news:4B378694.855D84C7(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com... > > > Conor wrote: >> >> In article <4B37641E.660FCE5B(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com>, >> johannes >> says... >> >> > > Ah, well there are POI downloads for Tomtom that'll do that for >> > > Keyfuels, RED and a couple of other cards. >> > >> > Already sounds too complicated for me. >> >> Why am I not surprised. > > So you admit that the purpose of satnav is to make life more > complicated. No. It is to make life more easily, by applying a source of information that comes "straight out of the box", and adding to the functionality of the device in much the same way that you add to the functionality of your home pc - by installing a bit of extra software. Does require an ability to think for oneself a bit....
From: Ian on 28 Dec 2009 16:13 "Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message news:dlqej5hen7icv6qfss2rb77b25cda2ittr(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:40:17 -0000, "Norman Wells" > <cmotd(a)dibblers-pies.co.am> wrote: > >>Ian Dalziel wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:58:15 -0000, "Ophelia" >>> <Ophelia(a)Elsinore.me.uk> >>> wrote: >> >>>> Well the ETA on mine is not fixed so I am not sure what you mean. >>>> If I am on clear motorway, I gain time. In traffic I lose it. >>> >>> Indeed. So the ETA when you set off bears little relation to >>> your - >>> erm - estimated arrival time? >> >>No, it's exactly right all the same. >> >>What it may not have any resemblance to, at least until later in the >>journey, is the actual time of arrival. But then a satnav isn't to >>know >>you'll have a craving for a Pukka Pie in the Newport Pagnell >>services, is >>it? >> > > If it bears no relation to the time you arrive, it's not actually > much > bleedin' use, is it? > Its an ETA. Clue..... E stands for Estimated. The estimate is updated during your journey. Realistic at the start, it becomes much more accurate as you approach your destination. > It shouldn't be beyond the wit of machine to set realistic averages > for country roads, and to allow for probable stops at traffic > lights. > Pukka Pies might be a bridge too far, though. The ETA takes account of not only your Pukka Pie, but also any crapping time, as you recommence your journey, being updated accordingly. > -- Please visit our appeal at http://www.donatetobreastcancer.org/nakedbikeride Thanks Ian
From: Ophelia on 28 Dec 2009 17:52 "Ian" <idh(a)henden.co.uk> wrote in message news:TY2dne5WG6f_gKTWnZ2dnUVZ7qWdnZ2d(a)brightview.com... > > "johannes" <johs(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com> wrote in message > news:4B378694.855D84C7(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com... >> >> >> Conor wrote: >>> >>> In article <4B37641E.660FCE5B(a)sizefit27279925465444ter.com>, johannes >>> says... >>> >>> > > Ah, well there are POI downloads for Tomtom that'll do that for >>> > > Keyfuels, RED and a couple of other cards. >>> > >>> > Already sounds too complicated for me. >>> >>> Why am I not surprised. >> >> So you admit that the purpose of satnav is to make life more complicated. > > No. It is to make life more easily, by applying a source of information > that comes "straight out of the box", and adding to the functionality of > the device in much the same way that you add to the functionality of your > home pc - by installing a bit of extra software. > > Does require an ability to think for oneself a bit.... This seems to be the thing that mystifies the detractors. -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
From: Ian on 29 Dec 2009 03:43
"Cynic" <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:rnm6j5hh887srif22umb812djv5cckmi7u(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:23:58 +0000, Roland Perry > <roland(a)perry.co.uk> > wrote: [...] > > Yes, I was also amused that the PP talked about 25 year old cars as > if > they were something special. My first car was an Austin A40 (van). > 1939 Standard 8. (be nice if I still had it........ ) -- Please visit our appeal at http://www.donatetobreastcancer.org/nakedbikeride Thanks Ian |