From: Ian on

<James Martin(a)hgvu.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:18:03 +0000, Ian Dalziel
> <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:48:44 GMT, James Martin(a)hgvu.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:39:11 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
>>><harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can relax and get on with concentrating with driving and let the
>>>>satnav get me where I'm going.
>>>And what are you going to do if your satnav goes nackared one day
>>>when
>>>you are miles away from home? you wouldn't have a clue due to the
>>>fact
>>>that you have been so used to sitting there doing what your useless
>>>satnav has been telling you to do .
>>
>>Why would I forget how to read a map because my Satnav broke down?
> Then why spend money on a satnav if you are still going to have to
> carry a map about with you ? I do not carry a map about with me
> anyway
> I look at it before leaving home if I need to.

During the working day, one can ALWAYS aquire a local street map (in
urban areas) free of charge, within a few minutes of parking your
vehicle.

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"Denis McMahon" <denis.m.f.mcmahon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Conor wrote:
>> In article <5kl9j5t3vjepvf86qfqji7qkqmrtu8s8p9(a)4ax.com>, James
>> Martin(a)hgvu.com says...
>>
>>> Considerably not due to my vast knowledge of the UK having done
>>> nothing else but travel in the course of my employment for many
>>> years.
>>
>> I've done likewise but I don't claim to know where everywhere is by
>> a long shot. Sure, I don't need to use a map to get to a town but
>> once I'm there, I tend to find it easier finding places with one.
>
> Yep, before satnav I used to drive to a city, stop at the first
> petrol station and buy a map.
>
> Navigating between cities is pretty easy if you have a basic
> knowledge of the geography of the country and the road network.
>
> Where I used to find a satnav useful was in the last 2 miles from
> leaving the trunk road network to reaching the destination.
>
> I wasn't worrying about bridges though, I think the highest vehicle
> I've ever driven was, at most, about 10 feet high.
>
Good job you did't meet any 9' bridges then!!!

:o)

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"Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:48:22 GMT, James Martin(a)hgvu.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:14:16 +0000, johannes
>><johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "johannes" <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:4B34DD81.7F391AEC(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Ophelia wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Mr X" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:hh2b5r$mh2$1(a)frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > <James Martin(a)hgvu.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> > news:0399j5hve9mci2nn31ovno3hush83g7u1c(a)4ax.com...
>>>> >> >> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:39:11 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
>>>> >> >> <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>>I can relax and get on with concentrating with driving and
>>>> >> >>>let the
>>>> >> >>>satnav get me where I'm going.
>>>> >> >> And what are you going to do if your satnav goes nackared
>>>> >> >> one day when
>>>> >> >> you are miles away from home? you wouldn't have a clue due
>>>> >> >> to the fact
>>>> >> >> that you have been so used to sitting there doing what your
>>>> >> >> useless
>>>> >> >> satnav has been telling you to do .
>>>> >> > Then I would follow the road signs.
>>>> >> > Do you have a starting crank on your car? Why would you
>>>> >> > want modern
>>>> >> > rubbish like electric starting - after all it could fail!
>>>> >> > In fact why have a car at all. A horse is much more
>>>> >> > reliable than such
>>>> >> > modern rubbish is the internal combustion engine!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yep:)
>>>> >
>>>> > Do you have nice systems such as Google Maps and Google Earth?
>>>> > These can
>>>> > be
>>>> > viewed in advance of a difficult journey. Memorise or print out
>>>> > as
>>>> > required.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Yes indeed we have those. but a print out isn't a lot of use.
>>>> You are
>>>> complaining about a small screen, but at least that is showing
>>>> just a small
>>>> area. A print out? That would be very dangerous if one were
>>>> having to
>>>> continually refer to it.
>>>>
>>>> > Looking at a 4" screen while driving can't be any good. In fact
>>>> > it should
>>>> > be
>>>> > outlawed, just like mobile phones.
>>>>
>>>> Well one doesn't actually sit and stare at the screen. I listen
>>>> and
>>>> occasionally glance at the ETA or the countdown to a turn. For
>>>> miles on
>>>> end, there is nothing to hear and very little to see. Perhaps
>>>> you need to
>>>> try one out fully:)
>>>
>>>So far my system has worked well. Google maps gives the logical
>>>route and
>>>Google Earth provides the particular landmarks to look out for.
>
>>You are wasting your time Johannes the people here probalbly
>>couldn't
>>find their way to their own WC if they hadn't got a satnav.
>
> What you really mean is, you're too dense to work a satnav, isn't
> it?
>
Perhaps he can't afford one?
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"johannes" <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Conor wrote:
>>
>> In article <4B34E4D8.EDA47A4(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com>,
>> johannes
>> says...
>>
>> > So far my system has worked well. Google maps gives the logical
>> > route and
>> > Google Earth provides the particular landmarks to look out for.
>>
>> So when you're driving through say London from one side to the
>> other, do
>> you stop after every turn and then every few hundred yards or do
>> you
>> read the instructions as you're driving?
>
> If driving London from one side to the other, I would probably use
> M25 for
> a large part, or major trunk roads planned in advance from home.
> Detailed
> directions isn't really necessary until you get closer to your
> destination.
> Only then I begin to look out for landmarks and possibly stop to
> consult
> the printouts.

Pre satnav days.

In middle of London with coach...(but away from bits I know).

Drove straight out of London with no bother.

Lady passenger behind me "He knows his way, don't he!"

Did I hell - principle is "Just drive in a sraight line until you meet
a big river... or the North or South Circular... or the M25... then
you know where you are".

Not very efficient, granted....

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"Roland Perry" <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <4B35D72A.30EA4FFE(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com>, at
> 09:28:10 on Sat, 26 Dec 2009, johannes
> <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> remarked:
>>I've been fooled in Cambridge many times. Always take the wrong
>>turn. But now I just dump the car in the multi-story and walk.
>
> That's a good plan if walking the last part is OK - but not an
> option for many deliveries. Although if able to walk through a city
> centre the last half mile, I'll probably have arrived by train,
> anyway.

Which would have given you a very long walk in Cambridge to get to the
centre...... of course, if you KNEW it was a long way, youd have taken
the bus...
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