From: Harry Bloomfield on
Martin crozier formulated on Monday :
> No they should learn to find the way from A to B without the use of
> some gadget or other before taking to the road. I knew the way to
> most major cities and towns in the UK before satnav's came into being
> and before I was even old enough to drive and I could find my way
> around my local area on my bike before I was 12 years old.

As did and could I, but the world has moved on with better faster more
efficient methods that make life considerably easier.

You have obviously adopted and adapted to a computer, something I
adopted in the mid 1970's - so why complain if others adopt satnav's as
a better way to find your way around?

I am very choosy as to what I adopt. A thing has to serve some sort of
useful function, before I will give it house room. Within an hour of
buying a modern satnav I had decided it was the best thing since sliced
bread - though I have been using early home devised systems since
around 1985.

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From: Harry Bloomfield on
Cynic used his keyboard to write :
> As has been stated ad nauseum - finding your way to a city is easy
> even without a map. But getting to a particular road in that city is
> a different story.

Quite true and don't forget a satnav can also find you fuel, a bed for
the night, food and numerous other things - no matter where you are, or
what the time.

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From: Harry Bloomfield on
Martin crozier explained :
> Very simple has I stated you ring the person or company you are
> visiting in that town or city when you get to it has I have said
> SIMPLE when you have a brain that is ! .

Then you get lost again trying to follow their directions or they may
omit a step, so you ring again....

All you do is give the satnav the address or postcode and it takes you
straight to the door. You miss a turn and it patiently recalculates as
many times as might be needed to get you there - how much simpler could
it be?

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From: Ian on

<Martin crozier> wrote in message
news:09l3k5hnc4qebgr1ladfvmh1ntulp7630v(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:24:51 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jan, 22:49, Martin crozier <> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:06:49 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >On 3 Jan, 18:52, Martin crozier <> wrote:
>>> >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:38:27 -0800 (PST), NM
>>> >> <nik.mor...(a)mac.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> >On 3 Jan, 14:38, Martin crozier <> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> >> Supposing in your lifetime you have been to most places you
>>> >> >> are likely
>>> >> >> to go long before all these gimmick like inventions had
>>> >> >> invented why
>>> >> >> spend money just to maybe find a street or whatever once you
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> arrived in the town or city when a quick call into a post
>>> >> >> office or
>>> >> >> cop shop or even to the place you are visiting will get you
>>> >> >> the info
>>> >> >> you need
>>>
>>> >> >Ok if you arrive in business hours, try finding any of the
>>> >> >above at
>>> >> >0400, finding the police station (if it's even got one and
>>> >> >it's open)
>>> >> >is a feat in it's own right in the middle of the night.
>>> >> >Assuming it's business hours, a quick call into the post
>>> >> >office where
>>> >> >I live involves knowing where the post office is in the first
>>> >> >place
>>> >> >then finding a parking place, getting change, walking through
>>> >> >the
>>> >> >pedestrianised bit, then back to your car, hardly a quick
>>> >> >call, I
>>> >> >would estimate 15 mins. start to finish. Time to operate
>>> >> >satnav 40
>>> >> >seconds or so, no contest IMO.
>>>
>>> >> >In the middle of the night in rural Cornwall you have no
>>> >> >chance of
>>> >> >finding anyone to ask directions but Mr Garmin is there ready
>>> >> >and
>>> >> >waiting to help you.
>>> >> >Break down in similar circumstances, call (insert breakdown
>>> >> >service of
>>> >> >your choice) one of their first questions will be. "Where
>>> >> >exactly are
>>> >> >you Sir?" luckily Mr Garmin will be there to tell you, down to
>>> >> >a
>>> >> >meter, this vital information could save someones life if you
>>> >> >were
>>> >> >calling an ambulance.
>>>
>>> >> >You stick to your paper, the rest of the world will move on.
>>>
>>> >> I will while you and people like you have thrown away your
>>> >> money on
>>> >> useless gadgets my bank account will remain bulging ready with
>>> >> money
>>> >> for a rainy day ! .If I had the need for a satnav I would buy
>>> >> one just
>>> >> as if I had the need to have a stupid TV dish hanging of the
>>> >> house
>>> >> wall I would have bought one.
>>> >> Remember a fool and his money are soon parted .
>>>
>>> >One mans useless gadget is another mans time saving device.
>>>
>>> I have all the time in the world old boy now that I am retired and
>>> can
>>> sit back and watch the world go by I don't give a damn anymore now
>>> I am not tied to a Speedo and tachometer.
>>
>>Good for you, how about the rest of the world, do you think they
>>should take your luddite advice?
> No they should learn to find the way from A to B without the use of
> some gadget or other before taking to the road. I knew the way to
> most major cities and towns in the UK before satnav's came into
> being
> and before I was even old enough to drive and I could find my way
> around my local area on my bike before I was 12 years old.

What.... spend money on MAPS? drawn by hand on PAPER? Whats wrong
with clay tablets, a piece of lodestone dangling on a bit of string,
and a bright star in the East? That were good enough when I were a
lad, off to fight the Crusades.....
<FX boring old hermit shuffles off back to his cave circa 1350AD>
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From: Ian on

"Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn.280d7da1970ec9e6.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
> Martin crozier explained :
>> Very simple has I stated you ring the person or company you are
>> visiting in that town or city when you get to it has I have said
>> SIMPLE when you have a brain that is ! .
>
> Then you get lost again trying to follow their directions or they
> may omit a step, so you ring again....
>
> All you do is give the satnav the address or postcode and it takes
> you straight to the door. You miss a turn and it patiently
> recalculates as many times as might be needed to get you there - how
> much simpler could it be?
>
Not simple enough for Crozier (who, I suspect, is Duhg in
duhgsuise....)
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