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From: Ophelia on 5 Jan 2010 06:10 "Ian" <idh(a)henden.co.uk> wrote in message news:nuSdnZwTv8zVn97WnZ2dnUVZ7sWdnZ2d(a)brightview.com... > > <Martin crozier> wrote in message > news:09l3k5hnc4qebgr1ladfvmh1ntulp7630v(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:24:51 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> >> wrote: >> >>>On 3 Jan, 22:49, Martin crozier <> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:06:49 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >On 3 Jan, 18:52, Martin crozier <> wrote: >>>> >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:38:27 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >On 3 Jan, 14:38, Martin crozier <> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >> Supposing in your lifetime you have been to most places you are >>>> >> >> likely >>>> >> >> to go long before all these gimmick like inventions had invented >>>> >> >> why >>>> >> >> spend money just to maybe find a street or whatever once you have >>>> >> >> arrived in the town or city when a quick call into a post office >>>> >> >> or >>>> >> >> cop shop or even to the place you are visiting will get you the >>>> >> >> info >>>> >> >> you need >>>> >>>> >> >Ok if you arrive in business hours, try finding any of the above at >>>> >> >0400, finding the police station (if it's even got one and it's >>>> >> >open) >>>> >> >is a feat in it's own right in the middle of the night. >>>> >> >Assuming it's business hours, a quick call into the post office >>>> >> >where >>>> >> >I live involves knowing where the post office is in the first place >>>> >> >then finding a parking place, getting change, walking through the >>>> >> >pedestrianised bit, then back to your car, hardly a quick call, I >>>> >> >would estimate 15 mins. start to finish. Time to operate satnav 40 >>>> >> >seconds or so, no contest IMO. >>>> >>>> >> >In the middle of the night in rural Cornwall you have no chance of >>>> >> >finding anyone to ask directions but Mr Garmin is there ready and >>>> >> >waiting to help you. >>>> >> >Break down in similar circumstances, call (insert breakdown service >>>> >> >of >>>> >> >your choice) one of their first questions will be. "Where exactly >>>> >> >are >>>> >> >you Sir?" luckily Mr Garmin will be there to tell you, down to a >>>> >> >meter, this vital information could save someones life if you were >>>> >> >calling an ambulance. >>>> >>>> >> >You stick to your paper, the rest of the world will move on. >>>> >>>> >> I will while you and people like you have thrown away your money on >>>> >> useless gadgets my bank account will remain bulging ready with money >>>> >> for a rainy day ! .If I had the need for a satnav I would buy one >>>> >> just >>>> >> as if I had the need to have a stupid TV dish hanging of the house >>>> >> wall I would have bought one. >>>> >> Remember a fool and his money are soon parted . >>>> >>>> >One mans useless gadget is another mans time saving device. >>>> >>>> I have all the time in the world old boy now that I am retired and can >>>> sit back and watch the world go by I don't give a damn anymore now >>>> I am not tied to a Speedo and tachometer. >>> >>>Good for you, how about the rest of the world, do you think they >>>should take your luddite advice? >> No they should learn to find the way from A to B without the use of >> some gadget or other before taking to the road. I knew the way to >> most major cities and towns in the UK before satnav's came into being >> and before I was even old enough to drive and I could find my way >> around my local area on my bike before I was 12 years old. > > What.... spend money on MAPS? drawn by hand on PAPER? Whats wrong with > clay tablets, a piece of lodestone dangling on a bit of string, and a > bright star in the East? That were good enough when I were a lad, off to > fight the Crusades..... > <FX boring old hermit shuffles off back to his cave circa 1350AD> lol.. although I fear our Martin is not such a luddite, since, as someone pointed out, he is using a computer. After all, he could still be using carrier pigeons. -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
From: NM on 5 Jan 2010 06:37 On 5 Jan, 11:10, "Ophelia" <Ophe...(a)Elsinore.me.uk> wrote: > "Ian" <i...(a)henden.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:nuSdnZwTv8zVn97WnZ2dnUVZ7sWdnZ2d(a)brightview.com... > > > > > > > <Martin crozier> wrote in message > >news:09l3k5hnc4qebgr1ladfvmh1ntulp7630v(a)4ax.com... > >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:24:51 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > >> wrote: > > >>>On 3 Jan, 22:49, Martin crozier <> wrote: > >>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:06:49 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> >On 3 Jan, 18:52, Martin crozier <> wrote: > >>>> >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:38:27 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > >>>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >> >On 3 Jan, 14:38, Martin crozier <> wrote: > > >>>> >> >> Supposing in your lifetime you have been to most places you are > >>>> >> >> likely > >>>> >> >> to go long before all these gimmick like inventions had invented > >>>> >> >> why > >>>> >> >> spend money just to maybe find a street or whatever once you have > >>>> >> >> arrived in the town or city when a quick call into a post office > >>>> >> >> or > >>>> >> >> cop shop or even to the place you are visiting will get you the > >>>> >> >> info > >>>> >> >> you need > > >>>> >> >Ok if you arrive in business hours, try finding any of the above at > >>>> >> >0400, finding the police station (if it's even got one and it's > >>>> >> >open) > >>>> >> >is a feat in it's own right in the middle of the night. > >>>> >> >Assuming it's business hours, a quick call into the post office > >>>> >> >where > >>>> >> >I live involves knowing where the post office is in the first place > >>>> >> >then finding a parking place, getting change, walking through the > >>>> >> >pedestrianised bit, then back to your car, hardly a quick call, I > >>>> >> >would estimate 15 mins. start to finish. Time to operate satnav 40 > >>>> >> >seconds or so, no contest IMO. > > >>>> >> >In the middle of the night in rural Cornwall you have no chance of > >>>> >> >finding anyone to ask directions but Mr Garmin is there ready and > >>>> >> >waiting to help you. > >>>> >> >Break down in similar circumstances, call (insert breakdown service > >>>> >> >of > >>>> >> >your choice) one of their first questions will be. "Where exactly > >>>> >> >are > >>>> >> >you Sir?" luckily Mr Garmin will be there to tell you, down to a > >>>> >> >meter, this vital information could save someones life if you were > >>>> >> >calling an ambulance. > > >>>> >> >You stick to your paper, the rest of the world will move on. > > >>>> >> I will while you and people like you have thrown away your money on > >>>> >> useless gadgets my bank account will remain bulging ready with money > >>>> >> for a rainy day ! .If I had the need for a satnav I would buy one > >>>> >> just > >>>> >> as if I had the need to have a stupid TV dish hanging of the house > >>>> >> wall I would have bought one. > >>>> >> Remember a fool and his money are soon parted . > > >>>> >One mans useless gadget is another mans time saving device. > > >>>> I have all the time in the world old boy now that I am retired and can > >>>> sit back and watch the world go by I don't give a damn anymore now > >>>> I am not tied to a Speedo and tachometer. > > >>>Good for you, how about the rest of the world, do you think they > >>>should take your luddite advice? > >> No they should learn to find the way from A to B without the use of > >> some gadget or other before taking to the road. I knew the way to > >> most major cities and towns in the UK before satnav's came into being > >> and before I was even old enough to drive and I could find my way > >> around my local area on my bike before I was 12 years old. > > > What.... spend money on MAPS? drawn by hand on PAPER? Whats wrong with > > clay tablets, a piece of lodestone dangling on a bit of string, and a > > bright star in the East? That were good enough when I were a lad, off to > > fight the Crusades..... > > <FX boring old hermit shuffles off back to his cave circa 1350AD> > > lol.. although I fear our Martin is not such a luddite, since, as someone > pointed out, he is using a computer. After all, he could still be using > carrier pigeons. > > -- > -- > > https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ As an aside, has anyone noticed the price of motorists map books has plummeted now the sat nav has become almost universal?
From: Ophelia on 5 Jan 2010 06:52 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:4283a320-e155-4ea7-83b0-4bcf9ad6a60e(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > As an aside, has anyone noticed the price of motorists map books has > plummeted now the sat nav has become almost universal? Yes:) Market forces and all that I suppose:) -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
From: Graeme on 5 Jan 2010 07:28 In message <7qgof1Fl5uU3(a)mid.individual.net> "Ophelia" <Ophelia(a)Elsinore.me.uk> wrote: > > > "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message > news:4283a320-e155-4ea7-83b0-4bcf9ad6a60e(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > > As an aside, has anyone noticed the price of motorists map books has > > plummeted now the sat nav has become almost universal? > > Yes:) Market forces and all that I suppose:) > That and the availability of the latest maps at varying scales on the internet. -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail> Photo galleries at <http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/>
From: Ophelia on 5 Jan 2010 10:25
"Graeme" <rail(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:524dd8d450%rail(a)greywall.demon.co.uk... > In message <7qgof1Fl5uU3(a)mid.individual.net> > "Ophelia" <Ophelia(a)Elsinore.me.uk> wrote: > >> >> >> "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> news:4283a320-e155-4ea7-83b0-4bcf9ad6a60e(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >> > As an aside, has anyone noticed the price of motorists map books has >> > plummeted now the sat nav has become almost universal? >> >> Yes:) Market forces and all that I suppose:) >> > > That and the availability of the latest maps at varying scales on the > internet. Indeed:) Less call for the paper stuff, prices fall, is what I meant. -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |