Bristol pay-as-you-go bike pilot scrapped
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From: GT on 28 May 2010 11:36 "Silk" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:htonl9$lic$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On 28/05/2010 15:05, JMS wrote: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8702011.stm >> >> Oh dear - I wonder if Boris's scheme will go the same way? >> >> >> >> I wonder if the newcomers to cycling in a city found it too dangerous? > > Bristol is a hilly city and not best suited to pushbikes unless you're a > fitness fanatic, in which case you'll already own one; the university is > also at the top of quite a steep hill. This seems like a perfect reason to get a bike from the top and leave it at the bottom. I don't see it working the other way though, so they'll soon run out of clients. (Very soon with just 10 bikes).
From: bugbear on 28 May 2010 12:33 Tosspot wrote: > On 28/05/10 15:32, bugbear wrote: >> JMS wrote: >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8702011.stm >>> >>> Oh dear - I wonder if Boris's scheme will go the same way? >>> >>> >>> >>> I wonder if the newcomers to cycling in a city found it too dangerous? >> I wonder if the rents were too high, or the >> funding ran out? > > Well, if Moody had actually read the article, well I'll help, here's the > relevant bit... > > "Hourbike said more funding was needed" Yes. I know. I was responding to JMS's implied-assertion-in-the-form-of-a-question in similar fashion. BugBear
From: Tosspot on 28 May 2010 13:41 On 28/05/10 16:22, JNugent wrote: > Tosspot wrote: >> On 28/05/10 15:32, bugbear wrote: >>> JMS wrote: >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8702011.stm >>>> >>>> Oh dear - I wonder if Boris's scheme will go the same way? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder if the newcomers to cycling in a city found it too dangerous? >>> I wonder if the rents were too high, or the >>> funding ran out? >> >> Well, if Moody had actually read the article, well I'll help, here's the >> relevant bit... >> >> "Hourbike said more funding was needed" >> >> Although, as usual, it works fine in Germany, you find a bike, call a >> number on >> your mobile, it automagically unlocks and off you go. When you finish, >> you lock >> it again, and it's debited to your mobile account. > > Do users pay the entire cost, or is there a significant subsidy from > people deriving no benefit from it? That's a very good question. DB run it, so my guess it likely in some part subsidised since the rail system is, and Germany being a bit more environmentally conscience tends to subsidise things like this. Next time I'm in a station I'll try and find out.
From: JNugent on 28 May 2010 14:32 bugbear wrote: > Tosspot wrote: >> On 28/05/10 15:32, bugbear wrote: >>> JMS wrote: >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8702011.stm >>>> >>>> Oh dear - I wonder if Boris's scheme will go the same way? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder if the newcomers to cycling in a city found it too dangerous? >>> I wonder if the rents were too high, or the >>> funding ran out? >> >> Well, if Moody had actually read the article, well I'll help, here's the >> relevant bit... >> >> "Hourbike said more funding was needed" > > Yes. I know. I was responding to JMS's > implied-assertion-in-the-form-of-a-question > in similar fashion. There's always a clue in the wording. "Funding" is invariably used as a weasel term (or euphemism) for "subsidy". "Subsidy" simply means making non-beneficiaries pay.
From: JNugent on 28 May 2010 14:33
Tosspot wrote: > On 28/05/10 16:22, JNugent wrote: >> Tosspot wrote: >>> On 28/05/10 15:32, bugbear wrote: >>>> JMS wrote: >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8702011.stm >>>>> >>>>> Oh dear - I wonder if Boris's scheme will go the same way? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if the newcomers to cycling in a city found it too dangerous? >>>> I wonder if the rents were too high, or the >>>> funding ran out? >>> Well, if Moody had actually read the article, well I'll help, here's the >>> relevant bit... >>> >>> "Hourbike said more funding was needed" >>> >>> Although, as usual, it works fine in Germany, you find a bike, call a >>> number on >>> your mobile, it automagically unlocks and off you go. When you finish, >>> you lock >>> it again, and it's debited to your mobile account. >> Do users pay the entire cost, or is there a significant subsidy from >> people deriving no benefit from it? > > That's a very good question. DB run it, so my guess it likely in some part > subsidised since the rail system is, and Germany being a bit more > environmentally conscience tends to subsidise things like this. Next time I'm > in a station I'll try and find out. I only meant the one in Bristol. It's unlikely that any of my money goes to "fund" such facilities in Germany. |