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From: delboy on 16 Mar 2010 19:08 On 16 Mar, 00:36, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Clive George wrote: > > On 15/03/2010 18:25, Adrian wrote: > >> Nick Finnigan<n...(a)genie.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > >> were saying: > > >>>> But, please, stop confusing that "liking" for a "need" - and accept > >>>> that an inevitable corollory of that liking is going to be increased > >>>> running costs - due to the fact that their inherent design requirements > >>>> mean they tend to be big, heavy, thirsty vehicles - which inevitably > >>>> means increased taxation due to the fact they emit more CO2 and use > >>>> more fuel - after all, it's not exactly a secret that CO2 has been used > >>>> as the basis for vehicle taxation for a decade, and that fuel has been > >>>> taxed for one hell of a lot longer. > > >>> Although I think Chelsea Tractor Man claims to emit less CO2 than > >>> your > >>> 2.0 petrol car > > >> <shrug> I wouldn't know. There's no official CO2 figures for my car.. > > > Though if it did, it would happily demonstrate the lack of a 4x4 tax. I > > see JNugent has now dropped his claim there was one. > > I never said that there *was* one specifically devoted to 4x4s. Those are > words which someone else tried to put into my mouth. > > I pointed out that if the owners of 4x4s were to complain about the > spite/envy taxes which are levied on them (the question of whether they are > levied upon the owners of other sorts of expensive and large cars is > irrelevant), I would find myself in some sympathy with them. > > There *is* a system of spite/envy/playing to the gallery taxes on more > expensive cars, often reported as a "4x4 tax".- Hide quoted text - > > Even quite humble ex rep Ford Mondeos and Vauxhall Vectras have quite high rates of VED applied to them! Derek C
From: Brimstone on 17 Mar 2010 04:22 "Jacobian" <Jacobian(a)live.com> wrote in message news:80ab7dF9vaU1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >> >> >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>> >>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>> >>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>> >>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>> who the driver is. >>> >>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>> >> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >> prosecute? >> >> > Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! Which company secretary?
From: Peter Grange on 17 Mar 2010 06:54 On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000, Jacobian <Jacobian(a)live.com> wrote: >On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >> >> >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>> >>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>> >>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>> >>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>> who the driver is. >>> >>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>> >> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >> prosecute? >> >> >Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to have any more.
From: Jacobian on 17 Mar 2010 14:46 On 17/03/2010 10:54, Peter Grange wrote: >>> >>> >> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! > > That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to > have any more. Just because you don't 'need' a company secretary anymore, doesn't mean that most don't have one. Anyway, fill in the name of a company on a logbook, you are required to nominate a responsible real person.. they get the points/fine if they cannot point finger at someone else.
From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Mar 2010 15:52
Jacobian wrote: > On 17/03/2010 10:54, Peter Grange wrote: > >>>> >>>> >>> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! >> >> That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to >> have any more. > > Just because you don't 'need' a company secretary anymore, doesn't > mean that most don't have one. > > Anyway, fill in the name of a company on a logbook, you are required > to nominate a responsible real person.. they get the points/fine if > they cannot point finger at someone else. Don't be surprised if they don't understand that - cyclists are a bit thick. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit. |