From: Adrian on
S <s_pickle2001(a)yahoo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> There are loophole, e.g., the registered keeper claiming that he was
> travelling with his wife and not remembering who was driving at the
> precise moment

Nope, doesn't seem to be a particularly effective loophole.

http://www.thisiswesternmorningnews.co.uk/news/speeding-case-8211-couple-
fined/article-1872669-detail/article.html
From: Brimstone on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jacobian" <Jacobian(a)live.com> wrote in message
> news:80ab7dF9vaU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>> Brimstone wrote:
>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>>> Brimstone wrote:
>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>>>>> S wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of
>>>>>>>>> their cars?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in
>>>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the
>>>>>> driver. Same thing innit?
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know
>>>>> who the driver is.
>>>>
>>>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable.
>>>>
>>> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to
>>> prosecute?
>>>
>>>
>> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up!
>
> Which company secretary?
>
I see that no one has answered this question yet. Are there no takers?


From: The Medway Handyman on
S wrote:
> On Mar 16, 6:15 pm, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>>> messagenews:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>> S wrote:
>>
>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of
>>>>> their cars?
>>
>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead.
>>
>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver.
>>
>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in
>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the
>> driver.
>>
>> Same thing innit?
>>
>
> There are loophole, e.g., the registered keeper claiming that he was
> travelling with his wife and not remembering who was driving at the
> precise moment, or the company secretary claiming that it was either X
> or Y or Z, but he has no way of knowing exactly which employee.

Bollox and you know it.

In any of those pathetic examples the registered keeper will be prosecuted
unless he names the driver.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


From: The Medway Handyman on
S wrote:
> On Mar 15, 11:30 pm, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> S wrote:
>>> On Mar 13, 4:27 pm, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Mike Smith wrote:
>>>>> I will never pay a licence fee to ride my bicycle. Let the wimps
>>>>> fall in line if they feel bullied into doing so.
>>
>>>> Shouldn't be surprised by this comment. Cyclists are habitual law
>>>> breakers.
>>
>>> As are motorists.
>>
>> Only in your weird deluded mind.
>>
>
> Are you a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists to make such a
> diagnosis?

Are you a member of the human race? Sorry, my mistake, you are a cyclist &
therefore scum.

> I assure you that law breaking by motorists is common, if you open
> your eyes, you will see plenty of it.

I used to cover 40,000 miles a year. I trust your views are based on
similar experience?

> 1. Running red lights. Amber to most motorists seems to mean "speed
> up" instead of "stop", and people accelerate even when it is clear
> that they will never make it before the light turns red. There are
> also many who *start* to turn right just after the light turns red.

Red to 100% of psycholists means "it doesn't apply to me". Motorists can be
identified on camera & prosequted. Cyclists can't.

> 2. Driving in the wrong direction in a one-way street. I live in a
> one- way street and see plenty of it, there have been at least two
> crashes as well. Last year the water company dug up the entrance, so
> there should have been no traffic except for cars already parked on
> the street leaving. Instead of this there was a steady stream of cars
> entering at the wrong end, driving down the street, seeing their exit
> was blocked and turning around.

Bollox. Driving the wrong way up a one way street is something psycholists
do all the time.

Another desparate cyclists trying to defend the indefensible.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


From: Peter Grange on
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:03:41 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>S wrote:
>> On Mar 15, 11:30 pm, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> S wrote:
>>>> On Mar 13, 4:27 pm, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Mike Smith wrote:
>>>>>> I will never pay a licence fee to ride my bicycle. Let the wimps
>>>>>> fall in line if they feel bullied into doing so.
>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't be surprised by this comment. Cyclists are habitual law
>>>>> breakers.
>>>
>>>> As are motorists.
>>>
>>> Only in your weird deluded mind.
>>>
>>
>> Are you a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists to make such a
>> diagnosis?
>
>Are you a member of the human race? Sorry, my mistake, you are a cyclist &
>therefore scum.
Language slightly better this time, but still unable to post without
an insult. Definitely fear of cyclists I think.
>
>> I assure you that law breaking by motorists is common, if you open
>> your eyes, you will see plenty of it.
>
>I used to cover 40,000 miles a year. I trust your views are based on
>similar experience?
>
>> 1. Running red lights. Amber to most motorists seems to mean "speed
>> up" instead of "stop", and people accelerate even when it is clear
>> that they will never make it before the light turns red. There are
>> also many who *start* to turn right just after the light turns red.
>
>Red to 100% of psycholists means "it doesn't apply to me". Motorists can be
>identified on camera & prosequted. Cyclists can't.
>
>> 2. Driving in the wrong direction in a one-way street. I live in a
>> one- way street and see plenty of it, there have been at least two
>> crashes as well. Last year the water company dug up the entrance, so
>> there should have been no traffic except for cars already parked on
>> the street leaving. Instead of this there was a steady stream of cars
>> entering at the wrong end, driving down the street, seeing their exit
>> was blocked and turning around.
>
>Bollox. Driving the wrong way up a one way street is something psycholists
>do all the time.
>
>Another desparate cyclists trying to defend the indefensible.