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From: JNugent on 18 Mar 2010 04:17 S wrote: [ ... ] > 2. Driving in the wrong direction in a one-way street. I live in a one- > way street and see plenty of it, there have been at least two crashes > as well. Last year the water company dug up the entrance, so there > should have been no traffic except for cars already parked on the > street leaving. Instead of this there was a steady stream of cars > entering at the wrong end, driving down the street, seeing their exit > was blocked and turning around. Whereas, presumably, they should have sat in their vehicles patiently, waiting for the roadworks to end in however many weeks' or months' time, so that they could get out again. Give 'em a chance to lose a bit of weight, at least, eh? Was the one-way order still operative for the duration of the period when the street was a cul-de sac? If o, one has to wonder about the sanity of the authorities in your area.
From: Paul on 18 Mar 2010 07:56 Peter Grange wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000, Jacobian <Jacobian(a)live.com> > wrote: > >> On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>>> >>>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>>> who the driver is. >>>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>>> >>> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >>> prosecute? >>> >>> >> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! > > That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to > have any more. It would be VERY unusual for a car leasing company NOT to have a company secretary.. The requirement not to have one is aimed at one director small companies...
From: Peter Grange on 18 Mar 2010 14:53 On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:56:59 +0000, Paul <Paul1231392(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Peter Grange wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000, Jacobian <Jacobian(a)live.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >>>> >>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>>>> >>>>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>>>> who the driver is. >>>>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>>>> >>>> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >>>> prosecute? >>>> >>>> >>> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! >> >> That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to >> have any more. > > >It would be VERY unusual for a car leasing company NOT to have a company >secretary.. >The requirement not to have one is aimed at one director small companies... I know at least one one-director company where that one director has a company car, doesn't have to be a leasing company.
From: Jacobian on 18 Mar 2010 15:01 On 18/03/2010 18:53, Peter Grange wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:56:59 +0000, Paul<Paul1231392(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Peter Grange wrote: >>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000, Jacobian<Jacobian(a)live.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>>>>> who the driver is. >>>>>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>>>>> >>>>> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >>>>> prosecute? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! >>> >>> That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to >>> have any more. >> >> >> It would be VERY unusual for a car leasing company NOT to have a company >> secretary.. >> The requirement not to have one is aimed at one director small companies... > I know at least one one-director company where that one director has a > company car, doesn't have to be a leasing company. Well that director would NOT be the keeper, AFAIK - the leasing company is the keeper, the small company director is just a user. All DVLA related stuff, including tax disc renewal is directed to the leasing company, they merely forward the tax disc on. In the case of a NIP, the nip goes first to the nominated person at the leasing co, who says 'not me, Joe Bloggs drives that" Oh, I think maybe you refer to a small company owning a car and there only one director...well that is changing goalposts as up there the thread clearly referred to - 'car leasing company pool car'
From: Peter Grange on 18 Mar 2010 15:22
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:01:08 +0000, Jacobian <jacobian(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On 18/03/2010 18:53, Peter Grange wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:56:59 +0000, Paul<Paul1231392(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000, Jacobian<Jacobian(a)live.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 16/03/2010 21:06, Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message news:6jRnn.50828$Ym4.39128(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:_UPnn.50799$Ym4.4900(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman"<davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:dpznn.50620$Ym4.41311(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>>>>>>>> S wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> What about drivers identity clearly displayed on the outside of >>>>>>>>>>>> their cars? >>>>>>>>>>> Doh! Its called a number plate knobhead. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That identifies the vehicle, not the driver. >>>>>>>>> It identifies the registered keeper and if the vehicle is involved in >>>>>>>>> breaking traffic law the registered keeper is obliged to name the >>>>>>>>> driver. Same thing innit? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, because there's no guarantee that the registered keeper will know >>>>>>>> who the driver is. >>>>>>> Oh really? In that case the registered keeper is liable. >>>>>>> >>>>>> In the case of a car leasing company pool car, who are you going to >>>>>> prosecute? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Company secretary, happens all the time, look it up! >>>> >>>> That'll be the Company Secretary that a company is not required to >>>> have any more. >>> >>> >>> It would be VERY unusual for a car leasing company NOT to have a company >>> secretary.. >>> The requirement not to have one is aimed at one director small companies... >> I know at least one one-director company where that one director has a >> company car, doesn't have to be a leasing company. > >Well that director would NOT be the keeper, AFAIK - the leasing company >is the keeper, the small company director is just a user. >All DVLA related stuff, including tax disc renewal is directed to the >leasing company, they merely forward the tax disc on. >In the case of a NIP, the nip goes first to the nominated person at the >leasing co, who says 'not me, Joe Bloggs drives that" > >Oh, I think maybe you refer to a small company owning a car and there >only one director...well that is changing goalposts as up there the >thread clearly referred to - 'car leasing company pool car' > I apologise, missed the "leasing company" bit. It is unlikely, but possible, there would not be a company sec in those circumstances. |