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From: Brimstone on 10 Mar 2010 15:16 "Shaun" <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:4b97e455.3034421(a)news.virginmedia.com... > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" > <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>Shaun wrote: >>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >>> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>>> >>>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >>>> Commissioners believe. >>>> >>>> See >>>> >>>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>>> >>>> Marie >>> >>> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being driven >>> badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of the >>> number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new one to >>> arrive in the post. >> >><WRIGGLE ALERT> >> >>That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% perfect, >>so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system works for the vast >>majority of motorists and would work for the vast majority of cyclists. >> > It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking > the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track > the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the > point ? It provides employment.
From: Mrcheerful on 10 Mar 2010 16:03 The Medway Handyman wrote: > Shaun wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Shaun wrote: >>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >>>> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>>>> >>>>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, >>>>> Castletown Commissioners believe. >>>>> >>>>> See >>>>> >>>>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>>>> >>>>> Marie >>>> >>>> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being >>>> driven badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of >>>> the number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new >>>> one to arrive in the post. >>> >>> <WRIGGLE ALERT> >>> >>> That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% >>> perfect, so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system >>> works for the vast majority of motorists and would work for the vast >>> majority of cyclists. >>> >> It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking >> the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track >> the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the >> point ? > > Because a push bike is a vehicle. Because cyclists frequently break > traffic laws and can't be traced, because we could ensure cyclists > were insured, because we could ensure they had passed a test of > competence & had roadworthy cycles. And tax could be collected to > pay for all the 'rights' they expect, but don't pay for. and since bicycles are frequently used to escape from crime scenes then perhaps it would help there too.
From: Shaun on 10 Mar 2010 19:34 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:41:44 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Shaun wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Shaun wrote: >>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >>>> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>>>> >>>>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >>>>> Commissioners believe. >>>>> >>>>> See >>>>> >>>>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>>>> >>>>> Marie >>>> >>>> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being >>>> driven badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of >>>> the number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new >>>> one to arrive in the post. >>> >>> <WRIGGLE ALERT> >>> >>> That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% >>> perfect, so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system >>> works for the vast majority of motorists and would work for the vast >>> majority of cyclists. >>> >> It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking >> the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track >> the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the >> point ? > >Because a push bike is a vehicle. So is a wheelbarrow >Because cyclists frequently break traffic >laws and can't be traced, An insignifcant number compared to pedestrians. >because we could ensure cyclists were insured, >because we could ensure they had passed a test of competence & had >roadworthy cycles. (of course forgetting laws already exist against unroadworthy bicycles and most people are insured via home insurance) Most cyclists are children. But if you want to see traffic police spending their time asking eight year olds for their papers, go ahead. > And tax could be collected to pay for all the 'rights' >they expect, but don't pay for. You are aware that everybody who pays taxes funds the roads and the only people who have any right to use the highway are pedestrians, horse rider and cyclists ? Thought not
From: Shaun on 10 Mar 2010 19:36 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:03:07 GMT, "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >The Medway Handyman wrote: >> Shaun wrote: >>> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >>> <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Shaun wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >>>>> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, >>>>>> Castletown Commissioners believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> See >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>>>>> >>>>>> Marie >>>>> >>>>> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being >>>>> driven badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of >>>>> the number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new >>>>> one to arrive in the post. >>>> >>>> <WRIGGLE ALERT> >>>> >>>> That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% >>>> perfect, so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system >>>> works for the vast majority of motorists and would work for the vast >>>> majority of cyclists. >>>> >>> It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking >>> the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track >>> the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the >>> point ? >> >> Because a push bike is a vehicle. Because cyclists frequently break >> traffic laws and can't be traced, because we could ensure cyclists >> were insured, because we could ensure they had passed a test of >> competence & had roadworthy cycles. And tax could be collected to >> pay for all the 'rights' they expect, but don't pay for. > >and since bicycles are frequently used to escape from crime scenes then >perhaps it would help there too. > That'll foil muggers who are too afraid of the law to remove a registration plate and risk a ten pound fine
From: Steve Firth on 11 Mar 2010 01:40
Shaun <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >and since bicycles are frequently used to escape from crime scenes then > >perhaps it would help there too. > > > That'll foil muggers who are too afraid of the law to remove a > registration plate and risk a ten pound fine So you're calling for car registration plates to be removed since they clearly can be defeated in exactly the same way? |