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From: AlanG on 12 Mar 2010 10:41 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:34:34 -0000, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >"AlanG" <invalid(a)invalid.net> wrote in message >news:egfkp51t4rt7tverkiuudcb0bq1ahq04m0(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:39:26 GMT, "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>>Brimstone wrote: >>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>> message news:z1bmn.49446$Ym4.36200(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>>>> Shaun wrote: >>>> >>>>>> You are aware that everybody who pays taxes funds the roads and the >>>>>> only people who have any right to use the highway are pedestrians, >>>>>> horse rider and cyclists ? >>>>> >>>>> More old bollox. Cyclists do not pay a 'specific' tax to use the >>>>> roads fuckwit - motorists do. >>>>> >>>> Let me rephrase that for you. Most road users do not pay a 'specific' >>>> tax to use the roads fuckwit - motorists are the only ones that do. >>>> >>>> So to clarify, pedestrians, horse riders/drivers, herders and drovers >>>> of animals, cycle riders, operators/drivers of historic vehicles >>>> constructed before 1 January 1973, electric vehicles, mowing >>>> machines, steam-powered vehicles, agricultural, horticultural and >>>> forestry vehicles and vehicles used by disabled drivers do not pay a >>>> specific tax to use the roads. Which just leaves the exception to the >>>> rule, normal everyday motorists. The rule being that no one pays a >>>> specific tax to use the public highway. >>> >>>you forgot one: cars that emit less than 100g of co2 per km. (or something >>>like that) >>> >> They pay fuel duty though. >> And VAT > >Indeed they do, but those taxes are outside the scope of this sub-thread. > Pedal cyclists and pedestrians pay fuel duty and vat on it?
From: JMS jmsmith2010 on 12 Mar 2010 10:48 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:01:08 +0000, Biggles <news(a)packaging.the-shillings.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >Marie wrote: >> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >> >> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >> Commissioners believe. >> >> See >> >> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >> >> Marie > >Can't see any logical reason why it shouldn't apply to all bicycles, not >just those ridden by over 16s. Ah, but that might inconvenience the >narrow-minded individuals proposing the legislation? > >Still, forcing all tax payers to subsidise each bicycle licence to the >tune of �20 sounds like fun. > It does not actually say that. I think that is should be totally self financing. If it costs 30 quid per cycle - then that should be the cost of the licence. -- Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws. The answer: All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered. Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest. Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed. (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)
From: JMS jmsmith2010 on 12 Mar 2010 10:50 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:58:47 GMT, shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com (Shaun) wrote: >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie ><marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >> >>ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >>Commissioners believe. >> >>See >> >>http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >> >>Marie > >Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being driven >badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of the >number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new one to >arrive in the post. Oh dear. People do actually lose licences - or had you not realised that? I suppose you would like a free for all - for all road users would you? -- Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws. The answer: All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered. Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest. Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed. (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)
From: JMS jmsmith2010 on 12 Mar 2010 10:56 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. > >ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >Commissioners believe. > >See > >http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp > >Marie Excellent news. However - it is the cyclist who should be licensed - not the bike. Compulsory training. Compulsory test. Compulsory license. Compulsory wearing of hi-viz slip over with registration number visible. Break the law - get points. Ride a bike below a certain spec - get points. So many points - lose license. Must take retest. Looking forward to it. -- Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws. The answer: All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered. Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest. Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed. (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)
From: Brimstone on 12 Mar 2010 11:07
"Ian Smith" <ian(a)astounding.org.uk> wrote in message news:slrnhpkguo.3df.ian(a)acheron.astounding.org.uk... > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:39:26 GMT, Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> Brimstone wrote: >> > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> > message news:z1bmn.49446$Ym4.36200(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> >> Shaun wrote: >> > >> >>> You are aware that everybody who pays taxes funds the roads and the >> >>> only people who have any right to use the highway are pedestrians, >> >>> horse rider and cyclists ? >> >> >> >> More old bollox. Cyclists do not pay a 'specific' tax to use the >> >> roads fuckwit - motorists do. >> >> >> > Let me rephrase that for you. Most road users do not pay a 'specific' >> > tax to use the roads fuckwit - motorists are the only ones that do. >> > >> > So to clarify, pedestrians, horse riders/drivers, herders and drovers >> > of animals, cycle riders, operators/drivers of historic vehicles >> > constructed before 1 January 1973, electric vehicles, mowing >> > machines, steam-powered vehicles, agricultural, horticultural and >> > forestry vehicles and vehicles used by disabled drivers do not pay a >> > specific tax to use the roads. Which just leaves the exception to the >> > rule, normal everyday motorists. The rule being that no one pays a >> > specific tax to use the public highway. >> >> you forgot one: cars that emit less than 100g of co2 per km. (or >> something >> like that) > > Don't fire engines based at an airport also get away without paying > VED? > VED is only payable by vehicles using the public highway and airfields are private property. How are such fire appliances "getting away with it"? |