From: BrianW on
On Mar 22, 7:17�am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> These are the deaths caused by motorised transport we don't often hear
> about because they are not recorded as such. Cyclists be proud!

Mmm. What about people who used to drive 14 mpg Land Rovers, Doug?
Should they be proud as well?
From: The Medway Handyman on
Doug wrote:
> These are the deaths caused by motorised transport we don't often hear
> about because they are not recorded as such. Cyclists be proud!

Please don't associate cyclists with your deluded ramblings. I despise
cyclists, but you are clearly in need of treatment.

> "More could be done to prevent the early deaths of up to 50,000 people
> each year hastened by air pollution, MPs say.

MP's don't say that fuckwit, they have been fed dubious information from a
lobby group, were not actually bright enough to understand the situation,
but decided they could score political points.

> A Commons Environmental Audit Committee report said failure to reduce
> pollution had put "enormous" cost on the NHS and could cost millions
> in EU fines.

Unable, of course to quantify that 'cost' if it indeed exists.

I simply can't be arsed to even respond to the rest of your mindless drivel.
You are even thicker than politicians.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


From: Doug on
On 22 Mar, 19:36, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> > I might have known that motorists on these NGs would try to divert blame
> > away from themselves onto HGVs and buses. It is time they realised that
> > cars are 80% of all road traffic and therefore responsible for a
> > considerable amount of pollution.
>
> <sigh>
> The concepts of relative mileages and relative fuel consumptions don't
> really impinge on your braincell, do they?
>
Certainly not on yours it seems.

In 2005 in billion vehicle kilometres:

Cars 397
Light vans 62
Goods vehicles 29
Buses and coaches 5.2
Pedal cycles 4.4

Says it all really and cars do 80% of the mileage. As for fuel
consumption this should be in terms of passenger kilometres and of
course goods vehicles provide a much more essential service for all
than your particular choice of personal transport.

--
Car Free Living Project
http://www.carfreelivingproject.org.uk/
For people wishing to live without a car






From: ashley filmer on
On 23 Mar, 07:00, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> On 22 Mar, 19:36, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > saying:
>
> > > I might have known that motorists on these NGs would try to divert blame
> > > away from themselves onto HGVs and buses. It is time they realised that
> > > cars are 80% of all road traffic and therefore responsible for a
> > > considerable amount of pollution.
>
> > <sigh>
> > The concepts of relative mileages and relative fuel consumptions don't
> > really impinge on your braincell, do they?
>
> Certainly not on yours it seems.
>
> In 2005 in billion vehicle kilometres:
>
> Cars 397
> Light vans 62
> Goods vehicles 29
> Buses and coaches 5.2
> Pedal cycles 4.4
>
> Says it all really and cars do 80% of the mileage. As for fuel
> consumption this should be in terms of passenger kilometres and of
> course goods vehicles provide a much more essential service for all
> than your particular choice of personal transport.
>
> --
> Car Free Living Projecthttp://www.carfreelivingproject.org.uk/
> For people wishing to live without a car


You obviously live in a city with the most comprehensive public
transport network in the UK Doug, but outside the M25, public
transport becomes much more 'pot luck'
What do you do when the journey you want to undertake is actually
further than you are physically capable of cycling, or even that there
is not enough hours in the day to travel the distance in the time you
can cycle it ?.

From: boltar2003 on
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
ashley filmer <ash.filmer(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>> With the legend =A0"Horses" or on some pretentious ones "Chevaux" as if
>> that makes using such a vehicle in the manner described OK.
>>
>> G.Harman
>
>It is plainly obvious that horse owners put this sign on their lorries
>so they can take their horses for a drive to show off to the other
>drivers. Only the most pretentious might want to pull a horse out of a
>field to take on a sunday drive with them. Heaven forbid they might

Well you have to wonder don't you. I don't remember ever seeing a livestock
truck with "SHEEP" or "CATTLE" or "PIGS" in bold letters on the back. But
then the horsey set do like to show off a bit don't they - its just an
upmarket bumper sticker.

B2003