From: Noddy on

"George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That was an easy one for you Noddy

Not really. My eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, and I couldn't tell
what kind of tail light was in the wagon. The black moulding on the tailgate
gave it away as an XT :)

> The HD had the sort of pointed headlight cowling on the guard, whereas the
> HD was more flattened and sedate

I think you mean the *HR* had the front guard edges flattened back.

> They changed it , I think because everyone was dinging in the guard edge
> and it would cost a new guard to replace

I remember (post model release as I'm not *that* old) the HD was heavily
criticised for it's front guards as many people considered them a danger to
pedestrians. The "knife edge" of the front gaurds was heavily criticised and
the press about the things was pretty negative at the time. Holden hurried
the HR into production to counter it, which is why the HD had one of the
shortest production runs of any new Holden (if not *the* shortest).

I can just remember as a young kid ( I would have been 3 or 4 at the time)
my old man buying a new "run-out" HD wagon as dealers were giving the things
away at the time because of their popularity (or lack of it).

> the XT has the indicator bar in the taillight, as the XR had the small
> rounded shaped one

They did indeed, but did you know that the XR Fairmont taillight was unique
to the Fairmont? They were a round light with a small indicator in the
centre like a regular XR light, but unlike the regular XR light the Fairmont
had a square indicator instead of a round one. Quite rare these days and
they fetch good money when they come up at swap meets on occasion.

The square indicator was taken from some US model (I can't remember which)
and fitted to the XR lamp to make the "Fairmont" unit. It was a pretty
insignificant change that most people didn't notice, and Ford learned a
lesson in cost cutting. From the XT onwards they got over themselves and
used a standard Falcon light in all models except the Fairlane and later
LTD.

--
Regards,
Noddy.



From: Kev on
Noddy wrote:
> "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6s3Xm.63272$ze1.37131(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> That was an easy one for you Noddy
>
> Not really. My eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, and I couldn't tell
> what kind of tail light was in the wagon. The black moulding on the tailgate
> gave it away as an XT :)
>
>> The HD had the sort of pointed headlight cowling on the guard, whereas the
>> HD was more flattened and sedate
>
> I think you mean the *HR* had the front guard edges flattened back.
>
>> They changed it , I think because everyone was dinging in the guard edge
>> and it would cost a new guard to replace
>
> I remember (post model release as I'm not *that* old) the HD was heavily
> criticised for it's front guards as many people considered them a danger to
> pedestrians. The "knife edge" of the front gaurds was heavily criticised and
> the press about the things was pretty negative at the time. Holden hurried
> the HR into production to counter it, which is why the HD had one of the
> shortest production runs of any new Holden (if not *the* shortest).
>
> I can just remember as a young kid ( I would have been 3 or 4 at the time)
> my old man buying a new "run-out" HD wagon as dealers were giving the things
> away at the time because of their popularity (or lack of it).
>
>> the XT has the indicator bar in the taillight, as the XR had the small
>> rounded shaped one
>
> They did indeed, but did you know that the XR Fairmont taillight was unique
> to the Fairmont? They were a round light with a small indicator in the
> centre like a regular XR light, but unlike the regular XR light the Fairmont
> had a square indicator instead of a round one. Quite rare these days and
> they fetch good money when they come up at swap meets on occasion.
>
> The square indicator was taken from some US model (I can't remember which)
> and fitted to the XR lamp to make the "Fairmont" unit. It was a pretty
> insignificant change that most people didn't notice, and Ford learned a
> lesson in cost cutting. From the XT onwards they got over themselves and
> used a standard Falcon light in all models except the Fairlane and later
> LTD.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

I remember seeing XT lights reversed so that the rectangular section sat
out higher than normal


Kev
From: Kev on
Kev wrote:

>
> I remember seeing XT lights reversed so that the rectangular section sat
> out higher than normal

Reversed the rectangular lens and made the lens sit higher than the
surrounding trim


Kev
From: Scotty on

"PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message
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: I'm trying to work out the year some photo's were taken in Darwin and so far
: the only thing we narrow it down to is "what's the most modern car in any of
: the photo's". Of the pictures we have the attached link is to the one that
: has the youngest car's in. There's a Falcon and a Holden that look to be
: either XR/XT and HD/HR.
:
: Can anyone give a better identification of either?
:
: http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/AA044.jpg
:
:
: PhilD
:
:
The Mini has green plates, what year where they introduced in QLD?


From: Scotty on

"George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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:
: "PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message
: news:rS2Xm.63262$ze1.24463(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
: > I'm trying to work out the year some photo's were taken in Darwin and so
: > far the only thing we narrow it down to is "what's the most modern car in
: > any of the photo's". Of the pictures we have the attached link is to the
: > one that has the youngest car's in. There's a Falcon and a Holden that
: > look to be either XR/XT and HD/HR.
: >
: > Can anyone give a better identification of either?
: >
: > http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/AA044.jpg
: >
: >
: > PhilD
: >
:
: The Falcon wagoin is an XT
: The Mini is an 850
: The Holden is a HD
:
:

How the hell can youtell that the Mini is an 850?!?! I had a 1000 just like that. Mates 1300 was
very similar if not the same.