From: Albm&ctd on
In article <rS2Xm.63262$ze1.24463(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au says...
> I'm trying to work out the year some photo's were taken in Darwin and so far
> the only thing we narrow it down to is "what's the most modern car in any of
> the photo's". Of the pictures we have the attached link is to the one that
> has the youngest car's in. There's a Falcon and a Holden that look to be
> either XR/XT and HD/HR.
>
> Can anyone give a better identification of either?
>
> http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/AA044.jpg
>
>
I'd say 1968 or a bit later as cars don't look in showroom condition.
There appears to be a race happening between a woman with child and a Bedford
truck.

Al
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From: PhilD on


"Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD(a)connexus.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.2598a5a3a056c2899899c8(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <rS2Xm.63262$ze1.24463(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au says...
>> I'm trying to work out the year some photo's were taken in Darwin and so
>> far
>> the only thing we narrow it down to is "what's the most modern car in any
>> of
>> the photo's". Of the pictures we have the attached link is to the one
>> that
>> has the youngest car's in. There's a Falcon and a Holden that look to be
>> either XR/XT and HD/HR.
>>
>> Can anyone give a better identification of either?
>>
>> http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/AA044.jpg
>>
>>
> I'd say 1968 or a bit later as cars don't look in showroom condition.
> There appears to be a race happening between a woman with child and a
> Bedford
> truck.
>
From the slogans on the truck my bet is that it was the May Day parade
(Labour Day elsewhere) which is held on the 1st Monday in May these days but
don't know about way back then. That would be about 5 years before I came up
here. I have a couple of other options to nail down the exact date from that
one and a couple of others but it will probably be January some time before
that happens. At the moment 1968 or 69 looks likely.

As far as "showroom condition" goes, back then to get here from the East,
West or South wasn't the best roads to get here in pristine condition.

PhilD

From: Deltic on
In article <033d4605$0$1384$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
D Walford <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:

> PhilD wrote:
> > "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:6s3Xm.63272$ze1.37131(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4b2cc1cf$0$99714$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net...
> >>> "PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message
> >>> news:rS2Xm.63262$ze1.24463(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>>> I'm trying to work out the year some photo's were taken in Darwin and so
> >>>> far the only thing we narrow it down to is "what's the most modern car
> >>>> in any of the photo's". Of the pictures we have the attached link is to
> >>>> the one that has the youngest car's in. There's a Falcon and a Holden
> >>>> that look to be either XR/XT and HD/HR.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone give a better identification of either?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/AA044.jpg
> >>> Looks like a HR Special Sedan and the wagon's definitely an XT as XR's
> >>> never had the black strip moulding across the tailgate. Early to mid 1968
> >>> at the minimum.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Noddy.
> >>>
> >> That was an easy one for you Noddy
> >> The HD had the sort of pointed headlight cowling on the guard, whereas the
> >> HD was more flattened and sedate
> >> They changed it , I think because everyone was dinging in the guard edge
> >> and it would cost a new guard to replace
> >> the XT has the indicator bar in the taillight, as the XR had the small
> >> rounded shaped one
> >>
> >>
> > OK you lot, since you are showing your age in knowing too much, here's the
> > complete set (not all with vehicles in them) so go your hardest and
> > identify
> > all vehicles. Unfortunately this is the resolution as they were sent to me.
> > As a bonus hard picture, there's a shot of some ski boats on one of the
> > Darwin Harbour beaches so identify what type of outboards are on them, and
> > anything else.
> >
> > http://s670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/phild12s131e/?action=view&current=e7
> > 8921ca.pbw
> >
> > PhilD
> >
> >
> Mostly Holdens and Fords with a Hillman Minx and a Studebaker in front
> of the Victoria Hotel.
> The car in front of the TAA building is the one I'm having trouble with,
> possibly a Fiat.
> The boats are too far away to work out what they are.
>
>
> Daryl

The car in front of the TAA building looks like a Renault Floride. An
expensive car in its day.

Cheers
John
From: Albm&ctd on
In article <4b2cd09a$0$99716$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com
says...
>
> "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6s3Xm.63272$ze1.37131(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > That was an easy one for you Noddy
>
> Not really. My eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, and I couldn't tell
> what kind of tail light was in the wagon. The black moulding on the tailgate
> gave it away as an XT :)
>
> > The HD had the sort of pointed headlight cowling on the guard, whereas the
> > HD was more flattened and sedate
>
> I think you mean the *HR* had the front guard edges flattened back.
>
> > They changed it , I think because everyone was dinging in the guard edge
> > and it would cost a new guard to replace
>
> I remember (post model release as I'm not *that* old) the HD was heavily
> criticised for it's front guards as many people considered them a danger to
> pedestrians. The "knife edge" of the front gaurds was heavily criticised and
> the press about the things was pretty negative at the time. Holden hurried
> the HR into production to counter it, which is why the HD had one of the
> shortest production runs of any new Holden (if not *the* shortest).
>
> I can just remember as a young kid ( I would have been 3 or 4 at the time)
> my old man buying a new "run-out" HD wagon as dealers were giving the things
> away at the time because of their popularity (or lack of it).
>
> > the XT has the indicator bar in the taillight, as the XR had the small
> > rounded shaped one
>
> They did indeed, but did you know that the XR Fairmont taillight was unique
> to the Fairmont? They were a round light with a small indicator in the
> centre like a regular XR light, but unlike the regular XR light the Fairmont
> had a square indicator instead of a round one. Quite rare these days and
> they fetch good money when they come up at swap meets on occasion.
>
> The square indicator was taken from some US model (I can't remember which)
> and fitted to the XR lamp to make the "Fairmont" unit. It was a pretty
> insignificant change that most people didn't notice, and Ford learned a
> lesson in cost cutting. From the XT onwards they got over themselves and
> used a standard Falcon light in all models except the Fairlane and later
> LTD.
I mas given an early flacoon front end body phart that never made it into
phroduction. Being NVFI I chucked it. Prolabee collect table noooo.
NVFI: Not Verry Frucki*g Interarrested.
....and No i haventh been driblinking.

Al
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From: George W Frost on

"Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD(a)connexus.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.2599f125ee3cac749899ca(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <4b2cd09a$0$99716$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, me(a)home.com
> says...
>>
>> "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6s3Xm.63272$ze1.37131(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> > That was an easy one for you Noddy
>>
>> Not really. My eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, and I couldn't
>> tell
>> what kind of tail light was in the wagon. The black moulding on the
>> tailgate
>> gave it away as an XT :)
>>
>> > The HD had the sort of pointed headlight cowling on the guard, whereas
>> > the
>> > HD was more flattened and sedate
>>
>> I think you mean the *HR* had the front guard edges flattened back.
>>
>> > They changed it , I think because everyone was dinging in the guard
>> > edge
>> > and it would cost a new guard to replace
>>
>> I remember (post model release as I'm not *that* old) the HD was heavily
>> criticised for it's front guards as many people considered them a danger
>> to
>> pedestrians. The "knife edge" of the front gaurds was heavily criticised
>> and
>> the press about the things was pretty negative at the time. Holden
>> hurried
>> the HR into production to counter it, which is why the HD had one of the
>> shortest production runs of any new Holden (if not *the* shortest).
>>
>> I can just remember as a young kid ( I would have been 3 or 4 at the
>> time)
>> my old man buying a new "run-out" HD wagon as dealers were giving the
>> things
>> away at the time because of their popularity (or lack of it).
>>
>> > the XT has the indicator bar in the taillight, as the XR had the small
>> > rounded shaped one
>>
>> They did indeed, but did you know that the XR Fairmont taillight was
>> unique
>> to the Fairmont? They were a round light with a small indicator in the
>> centre like a regular XR light, but unlike the regular XR light the
>> Fairmont
>> had a square indicator instead of a round one. Quite rare these days and
>> they fetch good money when they come up at swap meets on occasion.
>>
>> The square indicator was taken from some US model (I can't remember
>> which)
>> and fitted to the XR lamp to make the "Fairmont" unit. It was a pretty
>> insignificant change that most people didn't notice, and Ford learned a
>> lesson in cost cutting. From the XT onwards they got over themselves and
>> used a standard Falcon light in all models except the Fairlane and later
>> LTD.
> I mas given an early flacoon front end body phart that never made it into
> phroduction. Being NVFI I chucked it. Prolabee collect table noooo.
> NVFI: Not Verry Frucki*g Interarrested.
> ...and No i haventh been driblinking.
>


I still have some Phase 4 parts in the shed
They didn't make it onto the market
But, I knew a bloke who worked at Ford and he said they put all the Phase 4
stuff into containers or whatever, but a lot of parts got thrown over the
fence, to be retrieved after the knock-off hooter
and I bought a couple of heavy duty alternators, starters and some guages
Still in the shed somewhere