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"Raymond Keattch" <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> If the paint is slick (feels good), rain will sheet off, less dirt will
stick
> and cleaning is easier.


Cleaning is even easier on a car like mine - don't have to bother cos it's a
rough old snotter and looks bad clean or dirty!


From: PM on

"The Real Doctor" <ubergeekian(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> On 19 Jun, 23:43, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > Get your facts straight. The purpose of the visit was to machine polish
the
> > paint to remove surface scratching and swirls. I would have asked him to
> > quit, if he had gone near my car with a machine polisher before he had
washed
> > the car. I was very pleased with the way the car looked, but I like
cleaning
> > my car and wanted to try a different product, and as It was my money and
> > choice, I did so.
>
> As you had every right to do, of course.
>
> > If you don't like car detailing, why did you enter the thread?
>
> Having had the lid lifted on a previous unsuspected world, I confess a
> certain fascination now. For a start, calling it "detailing" rather
> than "polishing" is intriguing.

Yeah, I thought that "detailing" was doing all the fiddly stuff - polishing
the paintwork inside the engine bay, removing the wheels to clean the whole
alloy etc.


From: Raymond Keattch on
On 20/06/2008 01:00:28, "Clive George" wrote:
> "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:EpB6k.16760$NN3.5705(a)newsfe08.ams2...
>
>> The paint itself is glossy. It will be more glossy when machine polished.
>> Waxes and/or sealants are applied to the paint as protection and to impart
>> more depth and shine to the finish. The detailer topped the machine
>> polished
>> paint with a Carnauba wax.
>>
>> I removed the carnauba wax, bringing the paint back to the way it looked
>> after machine polishing, then applied a different protection in the form
>> of
>> Zaino products. These products have given more gloss and depth than the
>> wax
>> did.
>>
>> Clear now?
>
> So the professional used an expensive wax which gave a lower quality
> finish than your new finish? Strange - I'd have thought a pro would have
> the experience to choose the best product for your requirements.

I asked for the wax.

> Why didn't he offer to use the Zaino stuff on your car?

I could have chosen anything. As I a never going to buy a wax that expensive,
I wanted to see how it would make my car look.


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MrBitsy
Rover 75 CDTi
From: Raymond Keattch on
On 20/06/2008 07:18:37, The Real Doctor wrote:
> On 19 Jun, 23:43, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Get your facts straight. The purpose of the visit was to machine polish the
>> paint to remove surface scratching and swirls. I would have asked him to
>> quit, if he had gone near my car with a machine polisher before he had washed
>> the car. I was very pleased with the way the car looked, but I like cleaning
>> my car and wanted to try a different product, and as It was my money and
>> choice, I did so.
>
> As you had every right to do, of course.
>
>> If you don't like car detailing, why did you enter the thread?
>
> Having had the lid lifted on a previous unsuspected world, I confess a
> certain fascination now. For a start, calling it "detailing" rather
> than "polishing" is intriguing.

Car cleaning is what most people do, whether that be a car wash or a bucket.
Most limit themselves to an occasional wash and perhaps a yearly polish. The
word 'detailing' is used because of the extra effort that goes in to achieve
a better finish.

> Basically, I'm slowing down on the other psychological carriageway to
> have a good look!

I found the best page to start with is
http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/guides.html



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MrBitsy
Rover 75 CDTi
From: Raymond Keattch on
On 20/06/2008 08:19:23, "PM" wrote:
>
> "The Real Doctor" <ubergeekian(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:cdc99a2d-e96f-491b-80ff-44d09a3ac129(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On 19 Jun, 23:43, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Get your facts straight. The purpose of the visit was to machine polish
> the
>> > paint to remove surface scratching and swirls. I would have asked him to
>> > quit, if he had gone near my car with a machine polisher before he had
> washed
>> > the car. I was very pleased with the way the car looked, but I like
> cleaning
>> > my car and wanted to try a different product, and as It was my money and
>> > choice, I did so.
>>
>> As you had every right to do, of course.
>>
>> > If you don't like car detailing, why did you enter the thread?
>>
>> Having had the lid lifted on a previous unsuspected world, I confess a
>> certain fascination now. For a start, calling it "detailing" rather
>> than "polishing" is intriguing.
>
> Yeah, I thought that "detailing" was doing all the fiddly stuff -
> polishing the paintwork inside the engine bay, removing the wheels to
> clean the whole alloy etc.

Where most people 'clean' the car by washing and the occasional polish,
'detailing' describes extra steps to achieve a better finish. It doesn't have
to include removing wheels or cleaning the engine ;-)

For example, my latest detail was to ...

Wash car
Clay car
Clean paint
Apply 3 layers of sealant
Top with liquid sealant

As most people do not do these extra steps, the term 'detailing' is used.
Also, it is a myth to suggest this stuff requires to be done every
day/week/month - it doesn't. The finish I have put on the car this week
should be good for months, but it will be done more often because I enjoy
doing it.




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MrBitsy
Rover 75 CDTi
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