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From: The Real Doctor on 21 Jun 2008 02:43 On 20 Jun, 17:17, st...(a)italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote: > I washed the Passat last week and used a 15 quid electric polisher and > some Autoglym I was given for my birthday. > > Does that mean I'm some kind of OCD detailing freak? Depends. Do you write a blog about it and keep records of the three hundred different waxes, polishes and sealants you've tried? Ian
From: The Real Doctor on 21 Jun 2008 02:44 On 20 Jun, 17:49, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You need to ask? I wonder if he knows whether closing the fridge door puts the light out? For certain? Ian
From: The Real Doctor on 21 Jun 2008 02:46 On 20 Jun, 21:46, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > On 20/06/2008 14:31:03, The Real Doctor wrote: > > A "clearer" finish, eh? This really is beginning to sound like > > audiophilia ... > > Have a look at the photos - they look pretty clear to me. > > It is quite simple. A wax by itself tends to make the paint look very 'rich', > sometimes described as 'warmer'. A sealant tends to make the car very shiny - > more like a mirror. The Zaino polish I used gives the paint a very clear > reflective surface. It's this use of subjective and generally meaningless terms like "rich" and "warmer" which sounds so much like audiophilia. Can you tell us how to measure "richness" in a finish? Ian
From: Adrian on 21 Jun 2008 04:12 steve(a)italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> In fact, my grass is 2ft high with lots of flowers in it - I was making >> a point that people all have their different ways of getting pride from >> doing something. I like to drive safely in a clean car. Others like to >> fish or collect stamps - I wonder what you do in your spare time? > I suspect it involves old French cars and tins of Dulux. <looks around, panicked, for webcam>
From: Raymond Keattch on 21 Jun 2008 05:59
On 21/06/2008 07:46:16, The Real Doctor wrote: > On 20 Jun, 21:46, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> On 20/06/2008 14:31:03, The Real Doctor wrote: > >> > A "clearer" finish, eh? This really is beginning to sound like >> > audiophilia ... >> >> Have a look at the photos - they look pretty clear to me. >> >> It is quite simple. A wax by itself tends to make the paint look very 'rich', >> sometimes described as 'warmer'. A sealant tends to make the car very shiny - >> more like a mirror. The Zaino polish I used gives the paint a very clear >> reflective surface. > > It's this use of subjective and generally meaningless terms like > "rich" and "warmer" which sounds so much like audiophilia. Can you > tell us how to measure "richness" in a finish? Have a look at this page ... http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/guides_protect.html About a third of the way down, you will see a red car. Its paint is very rich looking (warm), but the reflections are not very deep. Just below that, you will see another car with many more reflections, but less richness to the paint. The rich paint is typical of Carnauba wax finish. The more reflective finish is typical of a sealant. Of course, the many different products available try to blur the difference between the products, so carnauba wax producers try to get more reflections in their product, while sealant producers try to get more richness in their sealants. This is why some people will initially put a sealant on the car for its reflective properties, then top with a wax for its richness. I find Zaino to give the paint deep, clear reflections, but doesn't detract from the richness in the finish - my photos again for comparison ... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ray.keattch/Car/zaino/ZainoDetail/ You hopefully now will see the finish I have achieved is highly reflective, but has a certain 'warmth' to the finish - best of both worlds to me. -- MrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi |