From: Steve Firth on
Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:

> > You fuckwit.
>
> Oh dear.

What darling?

Someone who will pay �150 for a set of leads for HiFi or �120 for a pot
of wax but fits his car with unsafe, cheap tyres has his priorities
right does he?
From: David Taylor on
On 2008-06-22, Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> I am not the manufacturer trying to blind you with science and neither do I
> gain financialy from you agreeing about the product. However, I am an
> individual who has used the products discussed on my own car over the past
> year.

But you have proven yourself repeatedly in this thread to lack any
sense of objectivity. It's all wooley subjective richness and deepness
and clarity...

Which have all been proven, repeatedly, to be complete bollocks when the
same people are asked to compare products under scientific double-blind
conditions (i.e. where their pre-conceptions _can't_ affect the result).

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David Taylor
From: David Taylor on
On 2008-06-22, Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 22/06/2008 01:34:01, wrote:
>> Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/06/2008 00:21:44, wrote:
>>> > Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> My last interconnects were a little closed in, but the latest ones really
>>> >> open up the soundstage - vocals especially sound well forward and clear.
>>> >
>>> > So will you be claiming your million dollars from James Randi?
>>>
>>> What would be the point?
>>
>> You would be $1,000,000 richer.
>>
>>> I know with my �150 interconnects plugged in, I can hear each note played by
>>> each instrument crystal clear. I know with the �30 interconnects plugged in,
>>> I can no longer hear each individual note as clear, yet the sound as a whole
>>> is more pleasing. I am not interested in the slightest about wire, impedance
>>> or any other technical wizardry.
>>
>> You fuckwit.
>
> Oh dear.

You know what I find absolutely hilarious?

You've bought two sets of interconnects, totalling �180. Yet you're
using the �30 ones. Thus totally wasting �150 (well, more like �175,
but still).

--
David Taylor
From: David Taylor on
On 2008-06-21, Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 21/06/2008 17:51:21, Adrian wrote:
>> "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
>> like they were saying:
>>
>>>> I would _so_ love to get you to do a blind test.
>>
>>> No point.
>>
>> For you to say that, you obviously can't have much faith in there being a
>> real, discernible, difference.
>
> There will be no agreement. I have listened to each of the interconnects for
> the last two years - I know they each have an effect on the sound quality. As
> I said before, they are the cheaper pair, I don't have any HiFi friends, I am
> not a HiFi snob and I do not relate sound quality to value. A good case in
> point are my speakers. I have owned everything from �100 to �800 a pair. By
> far the best sounding speakers (they can sound different can't they? After
> all, they are just cones) are my current pair that cost me �200

If there is a difference, you would be able to identify it in a double
blind test. If you can't, there is no discernable difference.


>>> I have two pairs that sound very different to each other in my system.
>>
>> So you should be able to easily identify them in a blind test.
>
> Are you willing to admit they sound different to each other? No, of course
> you wouldn't.

If you can identify them in a double blind test -- of course! But you
won't be able to because there IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE!

> You have fixed views that would say something is wrong with one
> of the interconnects, because wire is wire. Maybe I like one pair because the
> sheath is blue or maybe I don't like the smell of the other? I am reallny not
> concerned with what voodo is happening - I like the music.

Oh OK, but don't tell me the sound is different -- your perception of it
can be whatever you like. Me, I'm happy not having to spend �180 to
find the "right" conductors...

--
David Taylor
From: David Taylor on
On 2008-06-22, Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 21/06/2008 22:41:05, The Real Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>
>> As I recall, he said he had to travel four hours each way to do the
>> job for you. Did he not make any charge for travelling time?
>
> I still didn't pay for my car to be washed.

He didn't even wash it!?

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David Taylor