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From: The Real Doctor on 25 Jun 2008 15:57 On 24 Jun, 22:26, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > The "I can tell the difference between a £30 and a £150 cable" bunch > amuse me because they seem to have no concept of how the signal is > conveyed within each of the audio devices in the chain. It's the digital interconnect maniacs who amuse me most. They seem to believe that each bit is used as it's produced ... Ian
From: The Real Doctor on 25 Jun 2008 15:59 On 25 Jun, 00:52, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > I don't need controlled trails to hear what components sound like it my > house. I can't listen to the system for a whole evening with the expensive > interconnects in - the bass is lumpy, soundstage closed in and vocals pushed > back. The cheaper ones I can have in the system for ever, because the > sounstage is more realistic, bass is tighter and vocals are pushed well > foward. Could you, as a matter of interest, explain exactly what you mean by lumpy/tight (bass), pushed back/forwards (vocals) and tight/realistic (soundstage)? Incidentally, if you weren't at the recording, how can you know whether it sounds realistic or not? Ian
From: Steve Firth on 25 Jun 2008 21:02 The Real Doctor <ubergeekian(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On 24 Jun, 22:26, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > > > The "I can tell the difference between a �30 and a �150 cable" bunch > > amuse me because they seem to have no concept of how the signal is > > conveyed within each of the audio devices in the chain. > > It's the digital interconnect maniacs who amuse me most. They seem to > believe that each bit is used as it's produced ... Denon charge �500 for an ethernet cable. That really does make me laugh.
From: Peter Parry on 26 Jun 2008 10:34 On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:02:47 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >Denon charge �500 for an ethernet cable. That really does make me laugh. A bargain. Mr Andrews will sell you a digital 1m phono/phono lead for �607.50. Which is not to be sniffed at as his analogue 1m phono leads are �1,530. However the digital ones do give a "more articulate bass". He even has a graph showing how digital "interconnects" compare with a vertical scale of "sweetness and naturalness" and a horizontal scale of "Spaciousness/dimensionality" (with a note saying it isn't a technically measured graph!). It's amazing how both improve as price increases. Having paid �607.50 for your digital wire it is of course important that you "burn it in" as the signal won't be pure until you do. It's also important to get it the right way around as "All cables - yes all cables have signal directionality. By 'directional' I mean that in one direction, the sound is slightly louder, has lower distortion, is a cleaner, smoother, sweeter, and has a deeper bass and overall wider dynamic range.... ". Once you have "directionalised" your cables "The sound stage will become more stable, phase accuracy improves, three-dimensionality becomes more pronounced and the whole system will sound more relaxed..." Perhaps our enthusiastic polisher had his more expensive wires in upside down?
From: John on 26 Jun 2008 11:35
"Peter Parry" <peter(a)wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message news:bc8764lr2b348kohkkbtqt8vi99190gmq9(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:02:47 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) > wrote: > >>Denon charge �500 for an ethernet cable. That really does make me laugh. > > A bargain. Mr Andrews will sell you a digital 1m phono/phono lead for > �607.50. Which is not to be sniffed at as his analogue 1m phono leads > are �1,530. However the digital ones do give a "more articulate > bass". > > He even has a graph showing how digital "interconnects" compare with a > vertical scale of "sweetness and naturalness" and a horizontal scale > of "Spaciousness/dimensionality" (with a note saying it isn't a > technically measured graph!). It's amazing how both improve as price > increases. > > Having paid �607.50 for your digital wire it is of course important > that you "burn it in" as the signal won't be pure until you do. It's > also important to get it the right way around as "All cables - yes all > cables have signal directionality. By 'directional' I mean that in one > direction, the sound is slightly louder, has lower distortion, is a > cleaner, smoother, sweeter, and has a deeper bass and overall wider > dynamic range.... ". > > Once you have "directionalised" your cables "The sound stage will > become more stable, phase accuracy improves, three-dimensionality > becomes more pronounced and the whole system will sound more > relaxed..." > > Perhaps our enthusiastic polisher had his more expensive wires in > upside down? > Blimey - do you also need a better 13 amp plug in case any impurities in the brass pins cause interference to the sound? |