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From: Raymond Keattch on 19 Jun 2008 18:51 On 19/06/2008 22:50:26, David Taylor wrote: > On 2008-06-19, Raymond Keattch <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> On 19/06/2008 16:50:44, "Clive George" wrote: >>> "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:L0v6k.5362$Nn.703(a)newsfe09.ams2... >>>> On 19/06/2008 16:10:16, The Real Doctor wrote: >>>>> On 19 Jun, 14:18, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Correct, the car didn't need doing, but I'm on annual leave and I enjoy >>>>>> cleaning the car. I didn't realise castles were so cheap. >>>>> >>>>> If it didn;t need doing, how can you tell that this latest snake-oil >>>>> is having any effect? >>>> >>>> Because I looked at the finish and noticed it had more gloss and depth? >>> >>> How come it's got more gloss and depth than the professional detailer left >>> it with? >> >> The paint itself has the same gloss and depth he left it with. > [...] >> >>> Sounds like either he wasn't as good as he should have been or the >>> improvement is illusory. >> >> How do you get an illusory finish - it is either a deeper shine or it isn't. > > According to you, it appears to simultaneously have exactly the same > gloss and depth, and more gloss and depth. I will use a dot-to-dot technique for you. The paint itself is glossy. It will be more glossy when machine polished. Waxes and/or sealants are applied to the paint as protection and to impart more depth and shine to the finish. The detailer topped the machine polished paint with a Carnauba wax. I removed the carnauba wax, bringing the paint back to the way it looked after machine polishing, then applied a different protection in the form of Zaino products. These products have given more gloss and depth than the wax did. Clear now? -- MrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi
From: Clive George on 19 Jun 2008 20:00 "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keattch(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:EpB6k.16760$NN3.5705(a)newsfe08.ams2... > The paint itself is glossy. It will be more glossy when machine polished. > Waxes and/or sealants are applied to the paint as protection and to impart > more depth and shine to the finish. The detailer topped the machine > polished > paint with a Carnauba wax. > > I removed the carnauba wax, bringing the paint back to the way it looked > after machine polishing, then applied a different protection in the form > of > Zaino products. These products have given more gloss and depth than the > wax > did. > > Clear now? So the professional used an expensive wax which gave a lower quality finish than your new finish? Strange - I'd have thought a pro would have the experience to choose the best product for your requirements. Why didn't he offer to use the Zaino stuff on your car?
From: The Real Doctor on 20 Jun 2008 02:18 On 19 Jun, 23:43, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > Get your facts straight. The purpose of the visit was to machine polish the > paint to remove surface scratching and swirls. I would have asked him to > quit, if he had gone near my car with a machine polisher before he had washed > the car. I was very pleased with the way the car looked, but I like cleaning > my car and wanted to try a different product, and as It was my money and > choice, I did so. As you had every right to do, of course. > If you don't like car detailing, why did you enter the thread? Having had the lid lifted on a previous unsuspected world, I confess a certain fascination now. For a start, calling it "detailing" rather than "polishing" is intriguing. Basically, I'm slowing down on the other psychological carriageway to have a good look! Ian
From: The Real Doctor on 20 Jun 2008 02:20 On 19 Jun, 23:45, "Raymond Keattch" <ray.keat...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > On 19/06/2008 22:44:58, The Real Doctor wrote: > > > On 19 Jun, 19:55, damduck-...(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > >> I think he will knit it a pullover next. > > > A sleeveless one, of course, since it's a Rover 75. And a set of > > string-backed wheel trims. > > Another Jeremy Clarkson following ignorant twit surfaces. Have you got a > turbo that goes 'psss' when you change gear? Jeremy ... who? Round here Rover 75s seem to be the exclusive preserve of elderly gentlemen who drive everywhere at 45mph ... and polish them a lot ... Ian
From: Brimstone on 20 Jun 2008 02:49
Raymond Keattch wrote: > but I like cleaning my car and wanted to try a > different product, and as It was my money and choice, I did so. > So are you suggesting that the activity of cleaning and polishing your car is the objective, i.e. your preferred pasttime or hobby, rather than merely having a very shiney car? (An analogy would be someone who enjoys driving whilst not being too bothered about the destination.) |