Car on water which instead of over 20 l/100km burns only aroun 5 liters per 100 kilometers
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From: News on 26 Jun 2008 03:26 "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message news:iWD8k.6683$aQ3.4191(a)fe085.usenetserver.com... > News wrote: >> >> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >> news:qNB8k.106371$WG2.37468(a)fe117.usenetserver.com... >>> News wrote: >>>> >>>> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >>>> news:CTz8k.26503$fX5.22639(a)fe109.usenetserver.com... >>>>> News wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:gyz8k.2235$b_3.1732(a)fe127.usenetserver.com... >>>>>>> News wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Got it: >>>>>>>>>> http://totalizm.nazwa.pl/boiler.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a bunch of nonsense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A COP of 1.7 is for that each kW consumed 1.7 is output. Is that >>>>>>>> over unity? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is not what COP means. 1.7 kw is output _and_ moved. The extra >>>>>>> heat doesn't just appear as if by magic. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know what COP is in relation to a heat pump. The pump "moves" >>>>>> heat. There is no heat being moved here. Input is electrical energy >>>>>> and output is heat. Both can be measured in kW. >>>>> >>>>> Then someone is screwing up or lying. It is just that simple. If such >>>>> a simple device did exist, there would be a fire like excitement on >>>>> every university campus in the world. >>>>> >>>>> No excitement, the claim is bullshit. >>>> >>>> You are obviously a very pessimistic man. >>> >>> Nope, realistic. You, on the other hand, are a believer. >> >> Enough independent evidence suggests... > > You are just not getting this. It flies in > the face of over one hundred years of observations. If it were true, all > hell would have broken loose in the scientific community. A number of people in NZ, even a credible newspaper, have reported it worked - it does what it is supposed to do. Is it feasible? I don't know. The hydrosonic pump creates heat by merely pumping water and that is just a recent invention. I gave details. New things do happen. >>>> Do you think the world is going end soon as well? >>> >>> No. Why would you ask such a stupid question? >> >> Because you are obviously a very pessimistic man. > > To you apparently. Nice of you to have a skewed opinion. Now, qualify your > observation. I read the press reports. You can do that.
From: Eeyore on 26 Jun 2008 06:49 News wrote: > "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote > > > > No excitement, the claim is bullshit. > > You are obviously a very pessimistic man. Do you think the world is going > end soon as well? Hansen must do, he's lobbying for more AGW support in the face of numbers that contradict his case. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Jun 2008 07:10 News wrote: > A number of people in NZ, even a credible newspaper, have reported it > worked The number of gullible people never ceases to amaze me. Graham
From: News on 26 Jun 2008 12:39 "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message news:s_O8k.58436$c5.35998(a)fe101.usenetserver.com... > News wrote: >> >> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >> news:iWD8k.6683$aQ3.4191(a)fe085.usenetserver.com... >>> News wrote: >>>> >>>> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >>>> news:qNB8k.106371$WG2.37468(a)fe117.usenetserver.com... >>>>> News wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:CTz8k.26503$fX5.22639(a)fe109.usenetserver.com... >>>>>>> News wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "DB" <abc(a)some.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:gyz8k.2235$b_3.1732(a)fe127.usenetserver.com... >>>>>>>>> News wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Got it: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://totalizm.nazwa.pl/boiler.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What a bunch of nonsense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A COP of 1.7 is for that each kW consumed 1.7 is output. Is that >>>>>>>>>> over unity? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is not what COP means. 1.7 kw is output _and_ moved. The >>>>>>>>> extra heat doesn't just appear as if by magic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know what COP is in relation to a heat pump. The pump "moves" >>>>>>>> heat. There is no heat being moved here. Input is electrical energy >>>>>>>> and output is heat. Both can be measured in kW. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then someone is screwing up or lying. It is just that simple. If >>>>>>> such a simple device did exist, there would be a fire like >>>>>>> excitement on every university campus in the world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No excitement, the claim is bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are obviously a very pessimistic man. >>>>> >>>>> Nope, realistic. You, on the other hand, are a believer. >>>> >>>> Enough independent evidence suggests... >>> >>> You are just not getting this. It flies in >>> the face of over one hundred years of observations. If it were true, all >>> hell would have broken loose in the scientific community. >> >> A number of people in NZ, even a credible newspaper, have reported it >> worked... > > I've seen water powered cars and such go by in the U.S. news, so what? > > Let these charlatans walk onto any university campus in the world and all > hell would break loose if they were right. Why don't they just do that? > >>>>>> Do you think the world is going end soon as well? >>>>> >>>>> No. Why would you ask such a stupid question? >>>> >>>> Because you are obviously a very pessimistic man. >>> >>> To you apparently. Nice of you to have a skewed opinion. Now, qualify >>> your observation. >> >> I read the press reports. You can do that. > > You are a loon..... Because I can read?
From: You on 26 Jun 2008 14:22
In article <g3ufbh$edr$2(a)registered.motzarella.org>, "News" <killefitz(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > An immersion electric resistance heater is COP 1, well 0.99. About the best > at point of use using purchased energy as input. A COP of 1.7 is for that > each kW consumed 1.7 is output. Is that over unity? NO, the COP of 1.7 means your "Moving" 1.7Kw of External Energy for every 1 Kw of energy expended. You move BTU's for "One Place" to "Another Place" and you can "Move" those BTU's with less energy epended, than the BTU's you moved. |