From: Man at B&Q on
On Jun 30, 2:20 pm, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
> > "Kiteflyer" <ann_marie050...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:5e829366-b237-40ec-8853-125ee87107fb(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....
> > I've always had 5 door cars and been able to get cheap roofracks.
> > Went to Halfords to price a roofrack for my new 3 door, and they said
> > the only one that would fit a 3 door is a Thule at 175! I'm not
> > paying that for a roofrack.
> > They said it was hard to get one for a 3 door as they had to be
> > specially modified.
> > Anyone know where I can find a cheaper one?
>
> Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars?

That's what they are.

> They don't have 3 or 5 doors -

Yes they do.

> they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4
> passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with the
> boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the boot -
> its still not a 'door' though!

On a saloon the bootlid opens into the boot. On a hatchback the hatch
opens into the car. It's another door, albeit usually hinged at the
top. Ask a few dog owners.

MBQ
From: GT on
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:890vfaFjm0U62(a)mid.individual.net...
> "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>
>> Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars? They don't have 3 or 5 doors
>> - they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4
>> passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with
>> the boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the
>> boot - its still not a 'door' though!
>
> <------- You
> Rest of world -------->

Well formed grammar and excellent pictorial representation. Unfortunately,
no marks for your working - you completely missed the question!

In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access to
the useful area of the item. The thing described here is not called a door,
but on most items a 'lid'. My question was simply, how/when did we come
about calling boot lid a door?


From: GT on
"Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0ae2faa9-7d33-4d89-8ef6-0c3fb39d7151(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 30, 2:20 pm, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
> > "Kiteflyer" <ann_marie050...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:5e829366-b237-40ec-8853-125ee87107fb(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > I've always had 5 door cars and been able to get cheap roofracks.
> > Went to Halfords to price a roofrack for my new 3 door, and they said
> > the only one that would fit a 3 door is a Thule at 175! I'm not
> > paying that for a roofrack.
> > They said it was hard to get one for a 3 door as they had to be
> > specially modified.
> > Anyone know where I can find a cheaper one?
>
> Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars?

That's what they are.

> They don't have 3 or 5 doors -

Yes they do.

> they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4
> passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with
> the
> boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the boot -
> its still not a 'door' though!

On a saloon the bootlid opens into the boot. On a hatchback the hatch
opens into the car. It's another door, albeit usually hinged at the
top.


Above not indented properly. GT's Reply:
Actually the only difference between a saloon is that the rear window opens
with the metal part on the boot 'lid' (not door). The rear seats fold down
in most saloons, in the same way as in hatchbacks, so this doesn't
differentiate saloons from hatchbacks, so my original question holds? Why do
we refer to the boot 'lid' as a door?

Exactly how many times have you entered your car through the boot? I've
never done it. In the last 20 years, I can think of 1 person on 1 occasion
who had to access his car through the boot - he locked his keys in the car
and the boot lock didn't work. That car was a saloon, so why isn't a saloon
is a 5 'door' car too??


From: Nick Finnigan on
GT wrote:
>
> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access to
> the useful area of the item.

Some of us have garages.
From: Adrian on
Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access
>> to the useful area of the item.

> Some of us have garages.

Cat-flaps, too.
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