From: Nick Finnigan on 30 Jun 2010 15:37 GT wrote: > "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> GT wrote: >>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items >>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access to >>> the useful area of the item. >> Some of us have garages. > > Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to > obtain access to an internal area, It isn't: 'is designed or adapted to' rather than 'can'. > then a window is a door, a vent is a door Windows and vents are designed for ventilation. > etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door' > status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a boot > 'lid' a door? Lids go (primarily) on top e.g. of a boot. Doors are mainly vertical e.g. a shooting brake.
From: GT on 30 Jun 2010 15:52 "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message news:i0g6eg$eeb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > GT wrote: >> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> GT wrote: >>>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items >>>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access >>>> to the useful area of the item. >>> Some of us have garages. >> >> Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to >> obtain access to an internal area, > > It isn't: 'is designed or adapted to' rather than 'can'. > >> then a window is a door, a vent is a door > > Windows and vents are designed for ventilation. > >> etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door' >> status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a >> boot 'lid' a door? > > Lids go (primarily) on top e.g. of a boot. > Doors are mainly vertical e.g. a shooting brake. By that definition, a hatchback boot 'cover' is a lid as it both goes on top of the boot and is not vertical - more diagonal. An estate would therefore be a door as its fairly vertical and does not go on top of the boot. Kinda wish I hadn't asked the question now (you all do probably too!) Night night
From: Adrian on 30 Jun 2010 15:59 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Probably started when hatchbacks came along. Oooh, is it time for that debate again already?
From: bod on 30 Jun 2010 16:13 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >> Probably started when hatchbacks came along. > > Oooh, is it time for that debate again already? > > Let's hope not. Bod
From: OG on 30 Jun 2010 17:35
"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4c2b44a6$0$12262$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Kiteflyer" <ann_marie050268(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:5e829366-b237-40ec-8853-125ee87107fb(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... >> I've always had 5 door cars and been able to get cheap roofracks. >> Went to Halfords to price a roofrack for my new 3 door, and they said >> the only one that would fit a 3 door is a Thule at �175! I'm not >> paying that for a roofrack. >> They said it was hard to get one for a 3 door as they had to be >> specially modified. >> Anyone know where I can find a cheaper one? > > Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars? They don't have 3 or 5 doors - > they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4 > passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with > the boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the > boot - its still not a 'door' though! Simply, it distinguishes saloons (2/4 doors) from hatchbacks (3/5 doors). |