From: Nick Finnigan on
GT wrote:
> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> GT wrote:
>>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
>>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access to
>>> the useful area of the item.
>> Some of us have garages.
>
> Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to
> obtain access to an internal area,

It isn't: 'is designed or adapted to' rather than 'can'.

> then a window is a door, a vent is a door

Windows and vents are designed for ventilation.

> etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door'
> status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a boot
> 'lid' a door?

Lids go (primarily) on top e.g. of a boot.
Doors are mainly vertical e.g. a shooting brake.
From: GT on
"Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
news:i0g6eg$eeb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> GT wrote:
>> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> GT wrote:
>>>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
>>>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access
>>>> to the useful area of the item.
>>> Some of us have garages.
>>
>> Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to
>> obtain access to an internal area,
>
> It isn't: 'is designed or adapted to' rather than 'can'.
>
>> then a window is a door, a vent is a door
>
> Windows and vents are designed for ventilation.
>
>> etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door'
>> status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a
>> boot 'lid' a door?
>
> Lids go (primarily) on top e.g. of a boot.
> Doors are mainly vertical e.g. a shooting brake.

By that definition, a hatchback boot 'cover' is a lid as it both goes on top
of the boot and is not vertical - more diagonal. An estate would therefore
be a door as its fairly vertical and does not go on top of the boot.

Kinda wish I hadn't asked the question now (you all do probably too!)

Night night


From: Adrian on
bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> Probably started when hatchbacks came along.

Oooh, is it time for that debate again already?
From: bod on
Adrian wrote:
> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
>> Probably started when hatchbacks came along.
>
> Oooh, is it time for that debate again already?
>
>

Let's hope not.

Bod
From: OG on

"GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
news:4c2b44a6$0$12262$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> "Kiteflyer" <ann_marie050268(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5e829366-b237-40ec-8853-125ee87107fb(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> I've always had 5 door cars and been able to get cheap roofracks.
>> Went to Halfords to price a roofrack for my new 3 door, and they said
>> the only one that would fit a 3 door is a Thule at �175! I'm not
>> paying that for a roofrack.
>> They said it was hard to get one for a 3 door as they had to be
>> specially modified.
>> Anyone know where I can find a cheaper one?
>
> Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars? They don't have 3 or 5 doors -
> they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4
> passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with
> the boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the
> boot - its still not a 'door' though!

Simply, it distinguishes saloons (2/4 doors) from hatchbacks (3/5 doors).


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