From: Kiteflyer on
On Jun 30, 7:57 pm, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>
> > "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:891h0lF7ltU3(a)mid.individual.net...
> >> Brimstone wrote:
>
> >>> "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>news:891gctF7ltU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >>>> Brimstone wrote:
>
> >>>>> "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:891an8F3mpU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >>>>>> Adrian wrote:
> >>>>>>> Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
> >>>>>>> like they
> >>>>>>> were saying:
>
> >>>>>>>>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any
> >>>>>>>>> other items
> >>>>>>>>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural
> >>>>>>>>> access
> >>>>>>>>> to the useful area of the item.
>
> >>>>>>>>   Some of us have garages.
>
> >>>>>>> Cat-flaps, too.
>
> >>>>>> I think that there's still a few De Loreans around too.
>
> >>>>> It would have be a miniature/toy one.
>
> >>>> Nope.
>
> >>>>http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/111/
>
> >>> How do you expect to fit that car, as nice as it is, through a cat flap?
>
> >> A veerryy large cat flap.
>
> > I think it would need to be more of a woolly mammoth flap!
>
> Actually, woolly mamoths had their own flap, it covered their anus.
>
> Bod- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hello Bodkins.
I ask about a roofrack and get educated in the anatomy of a woolly
mamoth's bum flap....Always useful to know. :-)

I have climbed in thru the hatch of a hatchback several times. Very
useful when your locks break. But not very elegant.
From: bod on
Kiteflyer wrote:
> On Jun 30, 7:57 pm, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>
>>> "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:891h0lF7ltU3(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> Brimstone wrote:
>>>>> "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:891gctF7ltU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> Brimstone wrote:
>>>>>>> "bod" <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:891an8F3mpU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
>>>>>>>>> like they
>>>>>>>>> were saying:
>>>>>>>>>>> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any
>>>>>>>>>>> other items
>>>>>>>>>>> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural
>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>> to the useful area of the item.
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us have garages.
>>>>>>>>> Cat-flaps, too.
>>>>>>>> I think that there's still a few De Loreans around too.
>>>>>>> It would have be a miniature/toy one.
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>> http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/111/
>>>>> How do you expect to fit that car, as nice as it is, through a cat flap?
>>>> A veerryy large cat flap.
>>> I think it would need to be more of a woolly mammoth flap!
>> Actually, woolly mamoths had their own flap, it covered their anus.
>>
>> Bod- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Hello Bodkins.
> I ask about a roofrack and get educated in the anatomy of a woolly
> mamoth's bum flap....Always useful to know. :-)
>
> I have climbed in thru the hatch of a hatchback several times. Very
> useful when your locks break. But not very elegant.
>
>

Hi Kitey!

Bod
From: Man at B&Q on
On Jun 30, 5:17 pm, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
> "Man at B&Q" <manatba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:0ae2faa9-7d33-4d89-8ef6-0c3fb39d7151(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 30, 2:20 pm, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
>
> > > "Kiteflyer" <ann_marie050...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >news:5e829366-b237-40ec-8853-125ee87107fb(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....
> > > I've always had 5 door cars and been able to get cheap roofracks.
> > > Went to Halfords to price a roofrack for my new 3 door, and they said
> > > the only one that would fit a 3 door is a Thule at 175! I'm not
> > > paying that for a roofrack.
> > > They said it was hard to get one for a 3 door as they had to be
> > > specially modified.
> > > Anyone know where I can find a cheaper one?
>
> > Why do we call them 3 door and 5 door cars?
>
> That's what they are.
>
> > They don't have 3 or 5 doors -
>
> Yes they do.
>
> > they have 2 or 4 doors. A family saloon and a family hatchback have 4
> > passenger doors and a boot. With a hatchback the window opens along with
> > the
> > boot metal, on the saloon, the glass doesn't move when you open the boot -
> > its still not a 'door' though!
>
> On a saloon the bootlid opens into the boot. On a hatchback the hatch
> opens into the car. It's another door, albeit usually hinged at the
> top.
>
> Above not indented properly. GT's Reply:
> Actually the only difference between a saloon is that the rear window opens
> with the metal part on the boot 'lid' (not door). The rear seats fold down
> in most saloons, in the same way as in hatchbacks, so this doesn't
> differentiate saloons from hatchbacks, so my original question holds? Why do
> we refer to the boot 'lid' as a door?
>
> Exactly how many times have you entered your car through the boot?

The kids did it lots of times when we owned a Sharan. That was "5
door" with atop hinged hatch. I've never heard anyone refer to it as a
boot lid.

MBQ
From: Man at B&Q on
On Jun 30, 8:20 pm, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
> "Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > GT wrote:
>
> >> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
> >> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access to
> >> the useful area of the item.
>
> >  Some of us have garages.
>
> Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to
> obtain access to an internal area, then a window is a door, a vent is a door
> etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door'
> status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a boot
> 'lid' a door?

Hatchbacks don't have boots. They don't have boot lids.

MBQ

From: Mortimer on
"Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
news:i0frmj$alj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> > GT wrote:
>
> >> In the world that the rest of us live in, we don't have any other items
> >> where the doors with hinges at the top and doesn't give natural access
> >> to
> >> the useful area of the item.
>
> > Some of us have garages.
>
> Well if the definition of a door is something that can open in order to
> obtain access to an internal area, then a window is a door, a vent is a
> door
> etc. I agree that the location of the hinge doesn't detract from 'door'
> status - garage, DeLorean etc. But why and when did we start naming a boot
> 'lid' a door?

I can remember when the Austin Maxi was first produced in 1969 it was billed
as "5-door, 5-gear". So the hatchback has been regarded as a door ever since
then.

I wonder what terminology was used for estate cars - which are effectively
hatchbacks with a slightly longer boot section and a more vertical, less
sloping back end. Was an estate car with four passenger doors and a lifting
rear end ever described as having five doors?

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