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From: FrengaX on 7 Jun 2010 16:29 On Jun 7, 9:22 pm, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <4c0d4602$0$2591$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com>, GT <a...(a)b.c> > writes>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>news:a3a3ca51-f379-4b98-96ca-19e8cb28d98f(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.... > >> On 5 June, 23:04, "jamesd1974" <easyh...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Windscreen gets broken and driver continues to proceed in a straight > >> line while cautiously applying her brakes and hits a cyclist who > >> wrongly gets in her way. Obviously the driver cannot be at fault > >> because children broke her windscreen thus absolving her from all > >> blame The fact that she is in sole charge of a dangerous machine, aka > >> 'weapon', in a public place is of no consequence. > > >Before you use the word 'weapon' again to describe a 'vehicle'. Please give > >us a clear definition of the word weapon, then continue to explain how it > >can logically be applied to a car and why we don't us it to name every > >single thing in the world that has ever caused harm or death to a person.. > > I've been driving 'weapons' for over 50 years. Although, on a handful of > occasions, I've actually managed to inflict some very minor damage to > other, similar weapons, so far I've failed miserably to kill or injure > anyone. This is now beginning to get to me. I'm getting desperate. > Something must be done. Is there anyone out there who can help me in > overcoming this problem? Oh I don't know. I've been using my weapon/vehicle to wreak all sorts of havoc on the insect population recently, so the state of my windscreen would show. And I've even used it (unintentionally) against occasional birds, squirrels and even, regrettably, a deer.
From: GT on 8 Jun 2010 06:59 "FrengaX" <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:71e61eea-5bba-489f-9aaf-3d10407b4b9b(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... On Jun 7, 9:22 pm, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <4c0d4602$0$2591$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com>, GT <a...(a)b.c> > writes>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>news:a3a3ca51-f379-4b98-96ca-19e8cb28d98f(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > >> On 5 June, 23:04, "jamesd1974" <easyh...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Windscreen gets broken and driver continues to proceed in a straight > >> line while cautiously applying her brakes and hits a cyclist who > >> wrongly gets in her way. Obviously the driver cannot be at fault > >> because children broke her windscreen thus absolving her from all > >> blame The fact that she is in sole charge of a dangerous machine, aka > >> 'weapon', in a public place is of no consequence. > > >Before you use the word 'weapon' again to describe a 'vehicle'. Please > >give > >us a clear definition of the word weapon, then continue to explain how it > >can logically be applied to a car and why we don't us it to name every > >single thing in the world that has ever caused harm or death to a person. > > I've been driving 'weapons' for over 50 years. Although, on a handful of > occasions, I've actually managed to inflict some very minor damage to > other, similar weapons, so far I've failed miserably to kill or injure > anyone. This is now beginning to get to me. I'm getting desperate. > Something must be done. Is there anyone out there who can help me in > overcoming this problem? Frega: "Oh I don't know. I've been using my weapon/vehicle to wreak all sorts of havoc on the insect population recently, so the state of my windscreen would show. And I've even used it (unintentionally) against occasional birds, squirrels and even, regrettably, a deer. " You are not allowed to claim it was unintentional. You are licenced murderer. In Doug's world, when you pass the legal driving test, you are given a licence to kill. He actually stated many times that a "licence to drive is a licence to kill", so he thinks this killing etc is OK, but yet he still complains about it!! Notice he hasn't replied to the question asking for definition!! He will still use the words wrongly in other threads though!!
From: FrengaX on 8 Jun 2010 14:10 On Jun 8, 11:59 am, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "FrengaX" <hnkjqr...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > news:71e61eea-5bba-489f-9aaf-3d10407b4b9b(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 7, 9:22 pm, Ian Jackson > > > > > > <ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > In message <4c0d4602$0$2591$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com>, GT <a...(a)b.c> > > writes>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > >>news:a3a3ca51-f379-4b98-96ca-19e8cb28d98f(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > >> On 5 June, 23:04, "jamesd1974" <easyh...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > >> Windscreen gets broken and driver continues to proceed in a straight > > >> line while cautiously applying her brakes and hits a cyclist who > > >> wrongly gets in her way. Obviously the driver cannot be at fault > > >> because children broke her windscreen thus absolving her from all > > >> blame The fact that she is in sole charge of a dangerous machine, aka > > >> 'weapon', in a public place is of no consequence. > > > >Before you use the word 'weapon' again to describe a 'vehicle'. Please > > >give > > >us a clear definition of the word weapon, then continue to explain how it > > >can logically be applied to a car and why we don't us it to name every > > >single thing in the world that has ever caused harm or death to a person. > > > I've been driving 'weapons' for over 50 years. Although, on a handful of > > occasions, I've actually managed to inflict some very minor damage to > > other, similar weapons, so far I've failed miserably to kill or injure > > anyone. This is now beginning to get to me. I'm getting desperate. > > Something must be done. Is there anyone out there who can help me in > > overcoming this problem? > > Frega: > "Oh I don't know. I've been using my weapon/vehicle to wreak all sorts > of havoc on the insect population recently, so the state of my > windscreen would show. And I've even used it (unintentionally) against > occasional birds, squirrels and even, regrettably, a deer. > " > > You are not allowed to claim it was unintentional. You are licenced > murderer. In Doug's world, when you pass the legal driving test, you are > given a licence to kill. He actually stated many times that a "licence to > drive is a licence to kill", so he thinks this killing etc is OK, but yet he > still complains about it!! > > Notice he hasn't replied to the question asking for definition!! He will > still use the words wrongly in other threads though!!- Hide quoted text - > In the same way as he hasn't responded to my request to provide some sort of substantiation to his bizzarre theory which is the subject of this thread.
From: Doug on 9 Jun 2010 01:18 On 7 June, 20:18, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >news:a3a3ca51-f379-4b98-96ca-19e8cb28d98f(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > On 5 June, 23:04, "jamesd1974" <easyh...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Windscreen gets broken and driver continues to proceed in a straight > > line while cautiously applying her brakes and hits a cyclist who > > wrongly gets in her way. Obviously the driver cannot be at fault > > because children broke her windscreen thus absolving her from all > > blame The fact that she is in sole charge of a dangerous machine, aka > > 'weapon', in a public place is of no consequence. > > Before you use the word 'weapon' again to describe a 'vehicle'. Please give > us a clear definition of the word weapon, then continue to explain how it > can logically be applied to a car and why we don't us it to name every > single thing in the world that has ever caused harm or death to a person. > In this context this is the definition I prefer... "Anything that serves to outwit or get the better of an opponent". Hence, a motorist can use his car as a weapon against a cyclist but it is highly unlikely that a cyclist can against a motorist who remains in his car. A cyclist can use his bike as a weapon against a pedestrian, as can a car driver, but the cyclist is at risk of being countered by the pedestrian pushing him off with his fist weapon or jamming the spokes with his stick weapon, which would be useless against a car weapon. I do hope that clarifies the matter for you. Of course, where a victim is killed or seriously injured by a car it is more obviously a weapon and should be named as such. -- UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: webreader on 9 Jun 2010 02:05
On Jun 9, 6:18 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > On 7 June, 20:18, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:> > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > >news:a3a3ca51-f379-4b98-96ca-19e8cb28d98f(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.... > > > On 5 June, 23:04, "jamesd1974" <easyh...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > Windscreen gets broken and driver continues to proceed in a straight > > > line while cautiously applying her brakes and hits a cyclist who > > > wrongly gets in her way. Obviously the driver cannot be at fault > > > because children broke her windscreen thus absolving her from all > > > blame The fact that she is in sole charge of a dangerous machine, aka > > > 'weapon', in a public place is of no consequence. > > > Before you use the word 'weapon' again to describe a 'vehicle'. Please give > > us a clear definition of the word weapon, then continue to explain how it > > can logically be applied to a car and why we don't us it to name every > > single thing in the world that has ever caused harm or death to a person. > > In this context this is the definition I prefer... > > "Anything that serves to outwit or get the better of an opponent". > > Hence, a motorist can use his car as a weapon against a cyclist but it > is highly unlikely that a cyclist can against a motorist who remains > in his car. A cyclist can use his bike as a weapon against a > pedestrian, as can a car driver, but the cyclist is at risk of being > countered by the pedestrian pushing him off with his fist weapon or > jamming the spokes with his stick weapon, which would be useless > against a car weapon. > > I do hope that clarifies the matter for you. > > Of course, where a victim is killed or seriously injured by a car it > is more obviously a weapon and should be named as such. > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net > A driving licence is a licence to kill. OK, so if I use a knife to attempt to rob somebody, but he beats me off, then the knife has not been used to 'outwit or get the better of an opponent', so it is not a weapon. ESR |