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From: Chris Whelan on 26 Nov 2008 10:45 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:31:06 +0000, Dr Zoidberg wrote: > "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:PMaXk.131$4m6.6(a)newsfe18.ams2... >> >> "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ggj67a$dtr$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >>> "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> news:s2RWk.24383$sj.9209(a)newsfe11.ams2... >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Not sure if this is the right group, I'm sure someone can point me in >>>> the right direction if not. >>>> >>>> I have a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso, 4 months from new. Last week it >>>> cut out a couple of times and was difficult to re-start, followed by >>>> various error messages including "depollution system faulty" >>> >>> That will be the Diesel Particulate Filter getting clogged up - a >>> common problem on modern diesels of lots of makes. If you only do >>> short journeys it won't gte hot enough to burn off the soot and will >>> clog up. >>> >>> The solution is to drive round at higher speeds for at least half an >>> hour apparently! >> >> Ah, the old "Italian test drive" ! >> >> > Not necessarily thrashing it , just driving at such a speed as it gets > up to proper operating temperatures. ....and then sustaining that temperature for long enough that DPF regeneration takes place. Chris -- Remove prejudice to reply.
From: Albert T Cone on 26 Nov 2008 12:03 Chris Whelan wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:31:06 +0000, Dr Zoidberg wrote: > >> "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:PMaXk.131$4m6.6(a)newsfe18.ams2... >>> "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:ggj67a$dtr$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:s2RWk.24383$sj.9209(a)newsfe11.ams2... >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if this is the right group, I'm sure someone can point me in >>>>> the right direction if not. >>>>> >>>>> I have a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso, 4 months from new. Last week it >>>>> cut out a couple of times and was difficult to re-start, followed by >>>>> various error messages including "depollution system faulty" >>>> That will be the Diesel Particulate Filter getting clogged up - a >>>> common problem on modern diesels of lots of makes. If you only do >>>> short journeys it won't gte hot enough to burn off the soot and will >>>> clog up. >>>> >>>> The solution is to drive round at higher speeds for at least half an >>>> hour apparently! >>> Ah, the old "Italian test drive" ! >>> >>> >> Not necessarily thrashing it , just driving at such a speed as it gets >> up to proper operating temperatures. > > ...and then sustaining that temperature for long enough that DPF > regeneration takes place. > > Chris > How do these DPF things work? Some sort of hot thing to burn the soot particles?
From: Adrian on 26 Nov 2008 13:15 Albert T Cone <a.k.kirby(a)durham.ac.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Not necessarily thrashing it , just driving at such a speed as it gets >>> up to proper operating temperatures. >> ...and then sustaining that temperature for long enough that DPF >> regeneration takes place. > How do these DPF things work? Some sort of hot thing to burn the soot > particles? Basically, yes - they inject & ignite either extra fuel to burn the collected particulates off or some other active fluid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_filter#Regeneration
From: Dr Zoidberg on 26 Nov 2008 12:19 "Albert T Cone" <a.k.kirby(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote in message news:ggjvid$su6$1(a)heffalump.dur.ac.uk... > Chris Whelan wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:31:06 +0000, Dr Zoidberg wrote: >> >>> "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> news:PMaXk.131$4m6.6(a)newsfe18.ams2... >>>> "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:ggj67a$dtr$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >>>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:s2RWk.24383$sj.9209(a)newsfe11.ams2... >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure if this is the right group, I'm sure someone can point me in >>>>>> the right direction if not. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso, 4 months from new. Last week it >>>>>> cut out a couple of times and was difficult to re-start, followed by >>>>>> various error messages including "depollution system faulty" >>>>> That will be the Diesel Particulate Filter getting clogged up - a >>>>> common problem on modern diesels of lots of makes. If you only do >>>>> short journeys it won't gte hot enough to burn off the soot and will >>>>> clog up. >>>>> >>>>> The solution is to drive round at higher speeds for at least half an >>>>> hour apparently! >>>> Ah, the old "Italian test drive" ! >>>> >>>> >>> Not necessarily thrashing it , just driving at such a speed as it gets >>> up to proper operating temperatures. >> >> ...and then sustaining that temperature for long enough that DPF >> regeneration takes place. >> >> Chris >> > How do these DPF things work? Some sort of hot thing to burn the soot > particles? yep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_filter -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"
From: DanB on 26 Nov 2008 14:42 "Tim S Kemp" <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:x6idnf_bnf66YLHUnZ2dnUVZ8rSdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk... > > > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6p4c52F6bb1cU2(a)mid.individual.net... > >> Ignore Tim - he just hates french cars on principle... > > > My principles are honest and pure. The only decent French car is the > Veyron. Bugatti is now owned by the Germans. > > If you want to buy a poorly assembled car then a Citroen or Peugeot is one > of the better choices, you won't be disappointed. Renault seem to have > some quality control but why take the risk? > > German and Japanese manufacturers understand the importance of > consistency, quality engineering and quality control, the French and > Italians just churn out huge numbers of cars with government subsidies for > the home markets at cheap prices. > Heh, the Japs maybe, but the Germans? Behave, newe Beemers and Mercs seem to have way more problems than the French-bred cars do. I've had 3 modern ones, one brand new, one nearly new, and one 6 years old - none missed a beat. -- Dan B <empty parking space>
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