Coalition government: Transport Secretary Philip Hammond ends Labour's 'war on motorists'
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on 21 May 2010 12:10 On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:53:46 +0100, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >Not many people have travelled into Central London (from outside it, >obviously) for their grocery shopping since the days of Samuel Pepys, surely? I take the train in to Borough Market about twice a month. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 21 May 2010 12:11 On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:54:17 +0100, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >on the part of class warriors. I think that is of the past. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 21 May 2010 12:15 On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:36:59 +0100, "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> I see, you think people should forgo where they want to live and job >> opportunities to not use a car. Are you surprised few do? > >I am merely pointing out the difference between "have to" and "want to". >Many people seem to get these two confused. when people say "I live in the country and need a car" they realize they could leave the country and live in the city centre without a car, likewise they could give up a job thats difficult to reach by PT, -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Squashme on 21 May 2010 13:44 On 21 May, 16:43, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Dave Plowman wrote: > > JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >>> They do it because the sites are cheaper and people are stupid. > >> People are stupid to appreciate convenience, speed, choice, low > >> (compared to corner shops) prices, easy free parking and a general > >> atmosphere of welcome, are they? > > It's you who seem to be comparing to a 'corner shop', not me. > > The corner shop reference was to the competition on prices which has only > come about since the advent of the (real) supermarket. Corner shops always > charged (and still do if they can get away with it), full RRP. > And why do you think that might be?
From: Squashme on 21 May 2010 13:52
On 21 May, 16:14, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > > On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:05:22 +0100, JNugent > > <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > > >> Bluewater, rather like its older "twin", Lakeside, doesn't actually sell > >> groceries. > > > wrong, I go to the John Lewis food Hall there (Waitrose in all but > > name) > > There's a M%S food section as well. > > No competition for Asda and Tesco there, eh? > > >> For that reason both Lakeside and Bluewater are analagous to an old-fashioned > >> city centre (catering for what geographers call "high-order shopping"), > >> rather than to inner-suburban high streets ("low-order shopping" - especially > >> groceries etc). > > wrong, they are not in centres of population like a city centre, they > > are not at the hub of the PT network, you have to drive there. I've > > tried Bluewater PT, it stops before the cimema complex closes. > > No, you are wrong in saying "wrong", because I did not make the claims you > attribute to me. I agree that PT at Lakeside and Bluewater is less than > optimal. Just like it is everywhere else, in fact (with the possible > exception of central London). Did you miss the word "analagous", or just its > meaning? > > Those centres were designed for the car-borne customer. They are successful > because (among other things), families in cars are treated abominably by > local authorities. What precisely should the councils do to improve the treatment? Would the victimised motor-families be willing to pay for it? |