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From: Dave Plowman on 22 May 2010 05:25 In article <pkbdv511k9rnomutql3nhv0jb9mfkt54ul(a)4ax.com>, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > I think some councils (Westminster) are keen to make as much cash as > possible, most councils provide car parks for which they charge. But > certainly parking meters do drive people away from local shops to > places like Blue water and big supermarkets. Many parking restrictions > to stop people on street parking for stations just end up going > further and further back till there's nowhere to park. They would say > they are fighting congestion. Indeed. Many want to feel justified about spending 10 quid on fuel and wasting hours of time to save paying a quid for parking... -- *Forget the Joneses, I keep us up with the Simpsons. Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: Derek C on 22 May 2010 06:36 On 22 May, 10:25, Dave Plowman <d...(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: > In article <pkbdv511k9rnomutql3nhv0jb9mfkt5...(a)4ax.com>, > ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > I think some councils (Westminster) are keen to make as much cash as > > possible, most councils provide car parks for which they charge. But > > certainly parking meters do drive people away from local shops to > > places like Blue water and big supermarkets. Many parking restrictions > > to stop people on street parking for stations just end up going > > further and further back till there's nowhere to park. They would say > > they are fighting congestion. > > Indeed. Many want to feel justified about spending 10 quid on fuel and > wasting hours of time to save paying a quid for parking... > > -- > *Forget the Joneses, I keep us up with the Simpsons. > > Dave Plowman d...(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12 Doh! My experience of the Greater London area is that it is almost impossible to legally park anywhere near a small corner shop. Hence people are driven (no pun intended) to go to the large supermarkets with big car parks, or petrol stations with a small supermarket attached where there is a forecourt you can park on. Yellow lines are painted everywhere else so that local councils can extract fines from motorists, not to keep the traffic moving. Have you noticed that many parking restrictions only apply during the normal working hours of traffic wardens? Derek C
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 22 May 2010 06:38 On 21 May 2010 16:08:00 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Sheffield council refused them planning permission, insisting the store >was in the city centre. > >Ikea said "Oh. Well, in that case..." and abandoned plans to build a >store in Sheffield at all. So people from Sheffield have to go to >Nottingham or Leeds if they want to visit Ikea. so should we let business build wherever they like? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 22 May 2010 06:40 On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:15:51 +0100, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>>> depends where to, but the further out you are the earlier you must >>>> leave. If you are 40 miles out is it reasonable to expect all night >>>> services? >>> No. Not when you can use your car. >> >> but that defeats the object if 11.30 represents leaving a pub. > >Does it? yes. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 22 May 2010 06:47
On Fri, 21 May 2010 15:52:09 +0100, Dave Plowman <dave(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: >Plenty who have access to good PT still drive everywhere. Even although it >takes longer and is less convenient. I live in London where the PT is probably the best and the congestion the worst. If going into the centre I take the train, all other journeys are quicker by car by at least 50%. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. |