From: Dave Plowman on
In article
<6321b171-0302-45cd-b941-758781d0789d(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
Derek C <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Apart from in the rush hour, large engined, multi-seater buses and
> trains trundle around the countryside all day with only about three
> old age pensioners with bus passes and a couple of school age children
> on board. Is that really so green?

Round here, the times you see school children on buses etc is when going
to or from school. Thousands of them. And regardless of the times I use PT
(usually outside rush hour) it's never as empty as you suggest. But by
nature there will be times when it's more busy than others.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12

From: Dave Plowman on
In article
<cc8d7114-54e3-4943-9205-ddb0f7850b9f(a)c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Derek C <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > > The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple. Railways,
> > > buses and other form of public transport are highly unionised and the
> > > trade unions are their major source of income.
> >
> > That'll be why they spent so much public money trying to keep BL
> > running...
> >
> If you mean British Leyland, they were also highly unionised.

So nothing to do with motorists?

> Also the
> money they put into BL was peanuts compared with the recent bank
> bailouts, millions not billions.

It was indeed. Are the banks known as being a major source of income to
the Labour party too?

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12

From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Fri, 21 May 2010 00:46:06 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"
<manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>> And how often do you think people should go grocery shopping?
>
>My parents always managed. So did most of the rest pf the population
>with hardly an "out of town" shopping centre in existence.

usually with a non working housewife and a much less interesting range
of food. Things like (bell) peppers and aubergines were very exotic
then.
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Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Fri, 21 May 2010 00:48:45 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"
<manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>> What is convenient about having to drive miles to buy a few groceries?
>
>Nothing. You drive miles to buy *lots* of groceries,

(one of the lies put about is that driving to the supermarket to buy a
kilo of kenyan beans produces more carbon than flying them form Kenya.
Only true if its a 20 mile drive and you buy just the beans).
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Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Fri, 21 May 2010 00:59:50 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
<del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Apart from in the rush hour, large engined, multi-seater buses and
>trains trundle around the countryside all day with only about three
>old age pensioners with bus passes and a couple of school age children
>on board. Is that really so green?

no, its a social service.
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Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.