From: Dave Plowman on
In article
<f6330e95-57eb-4a3b-a0bd-725c3101042d(a)e21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Derek C <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple. Railways,
> buses and other form of public transport are highly unionised and the
> trade unions are their major source of income.

That'll be why they spent so much public money trying to keep BL running...

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12

From: The Medway Handyman on
JNugent wrote:
> Derek C wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple. Railways,
>> buses and other form of public transport are highly unionised and the
>> trade unions are their major source of income. Also they still live
>> in a time warp dating back to the early part of the twentieth
>> century, when only rich toffs drove cars. The proleteriat rode
>> bikes, used buses or travelled 3rd class on railways.
>
> It's part of the answer, but not all of it.
>
> The further answer is that Labour has always been wedded to
> quasi-religious views of the world, with pat faux-rationalisations
> and prescriptions for every social phenomenon.
>
> You can see the advantage. Once formulated, the "catechism" can
> easily be imparted to the ultra-faithful (councillors, senior officer
> of councils, etc) and disseminated to the more docile sections of the
> population who prefer to let Labour do their thinking for them. The
> 'Boxer' effect...
>> Many bicycles these days are actually very expensive fashion
>> accessories for rich yuppies. The middle and lower classes now drive
>> around in cars, because this is the most practical way of getting
>> around and doing your shopping, now little local corner shops have
>> mostly been closed down in favour of our-of-town supermarkets...
>
> ...though only because they are an improvement on the corner shop
> (something a true believer absolutely *will not* hear).

Stores like Tesco Express wil be the final nail in the coffin for the corner
shop - and quite right too.


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Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.


From: Halmyre on
In article <f0e26aec-8d35-4144-9708-0319127cda52(a)a20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
squashme(a)gmail.com says...
> On 20 May, 20:00, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:gifJn.13599$3a4.2626(a)newsfe30.ams2...
> >
> > > I'm more efficient at giving the customer what they want.  Corner shops
> > > aren't.
> >
> > If someone can walk to their corner shop to buy a few items and carry them
> > home why would they drive to a supermarket?
>
> "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself in a corner shop can
> count himself as a failure." (To mangle a quote attributed to
> Thatcher).
>

The corner shop is still invaluable as a source of jazz mags. So I'm told.

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From: ChelseaTractorMan on

> Also they still live
> in a time warp dating back to the early part of the twentieth
> century, when only rich toffs drove cars. The proleteriat rode
> bikes, used buses or travelled 3rd class on railways.

does anybody in the 21st century actually believe that anybody in the
labour party or anywhere sees cars as a class issue? The whole reason
politicians try to discourage car use is precisely because everybody
has one. The idea Blair and Brown did not know that is ridiculous.
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Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:43:36 -0700 (PDT), Squashme
<squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>What would that be, for corner shops, and why can't corner shops do it
>now? They have been around for a long time, after all.

you cannot carry the variety if you only have a few hundred customers,
corner shops are now places you nip out for the stuff you forgot, a
paper or a bottle of wine and a lottery ticket.
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Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.