From: Adrian on 21 May 2010 12:16 JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Ikea wanted to build a store on the edge of Sheffield. Sheffield >> council refused them planning permission, insisting the store was in >> the city centre. >> Ikea said "Oh. Well, in that case..." and abandoned plans to build a >> store in Sheffield at all. So people from Sheffield have to go to >> Nottingham or Leeds if they want to visit Ikea. http://snipurl.com/wlzd > Are Sheffield City Council mad? <opens mouth> > There's no particular need to answer that rhetorical question. <closes mouth>
From: JNugent on 21 May 2010 15:03 The Medway Handyman wrote: > Squashme wrote: >> On 20 May, 19:35, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> Squashme wrote: >>>> On 20 May, 18:28, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> JNugent wrote: >>>>>> Derek C wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple. >>>>>>> Railways, buses and other form of public transport are highly >>>>>>> unionised and the trade unions are their major source of income. >>>>>>> Also they still live in a time warp dating back to the early part >>>>>>> of the twentieth century, when only rich toffs drove cars. The >>>>>>> proleteriat rode bikes, used buses or travelled 3rd class on >>>>>>> railways. >>>>>> It's part of the answer, but not all of it. >>>>>> The further answer is that Labour has always been wedded to >>>>>> quasi-religious views of the world, with pat faux-rationalisations >>>>>> and prescriptions for every social phenomenon. >>>>>> You can see the advantage. Once formulated, the "catechism" can >>>>>> easily be imparted to the ultra-faithful (councillors, senior >>>>>> officer of councils, etc) and disseminated to the more docile >>>>>> sections of the population who prefer to let Labour do their >>>>>> thinking for them. The 'Boxer' effect... >>>>>>> Many bicycles these days are actually very expensive fashion >>>>>>> accessories for rich yuppies. The middle and lower classes now >>>>>>> drive around in cars, because this is the most practical way of >>>>>>> getting around and doing your shopping, now little local corner >>>>>>> shops have mostly been closed down in favour of our-of-town >>>>>>> supermarkets... >>>>>> ...though only because they are an improvement on the corner shop >>>>>> (something a true believer absolutely *will not* hear). >>>>> Stores like Tesco Express wil be the final nail in the coffin for >>>>> the corner shop - and quite right too. >>>> Aren't you a "corner shop"? >>> I'm a small independant trader yes, but not in retail. >>> >>> Several large companies have tried to lauch handyman services & >>> failed. B&Q for one. >>> >>> I'm more efficient at giving the customer what they want. Corner >>> shops aren't. >>> >> What would that be, for corner shops, and why can't corner shops do it >> now? They have been around for a long time, after all. > > They simply didn't - or couldn't respond to a changing market. Tesco et al > are incredibly successful because they know what their customers want & > provide it. Ah... but according to the fount of all knowledge (mileburner), the customers aren't entitled to have it unless he approves. And he doesn't.
From: JNugent on 21 May 2010 19:40 Brimstone wrote: > "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message > news:AvWdnUdNlegXMWvWnZ2dnUVZ7qudnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >> >> Not many people have travelled into Central London (from outside it, >> obviously) for their grocery shopping since the days of Samuel Pepys, >> surely? >> > Is one suggesting that one does not shop at Fortnum & Mason (sniff)? LOL
From: Peter Keller on 21 May 2010 23:43 On Fri, 21 May 2010 23:24:20 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: > > "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself riding a push bike can > count himself as a failure." (To mangle a quote attributed to Squashme). Thank you for the compliment. What an honour to be called a failure by you. Peter
From: JNugent on 22 May 2010 10:27
ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On 21 May 2010 16:08:00 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sheffield council refused them planning permission, insisting the store >> was in the city centre. >> >> Ikea said "Oh. Well, in that case..." and abandoned plans to build a >> store in Sheffield at all. So people from Sheffield have to go to >> Nottingham or Leeds if they want to visit Ikea. > > so should we let business build wherever they like? Absolutely not. But having a flat-ffoted policy of insisting that all retail development takes place in a city-centre fails to pass the test of - and I use this phrase very deliberately - *Wednesbury reasonableness*. |