From: Adrian on
JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> Ikea wanted to build a store on the edge of Sheffield. Sheffield
>> council refused them planning permission, insisting the store was in
>> the city centre.
>> Ikea said "Oh. Well, in that case..." and abandoned plans to build a
>> store in Sheffield at all. So people from Sheffield have to go to
>> Nottingham or Leeds if they want to visit Ikea. http://snipurl.com/wlzd

> Are Sheffield City Council mad?

<opens mouth>

> There's no particular need to answer that rhetorical question.

<closes mouth>
From: JNugent on
The Medway Handyman wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
>> On 20 May, 19:35, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>> On 20 May, 18:28, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> Derek C wrote:
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>> The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple.
>>>>>>> Railways, buses and other form of public transport are highly
>>>>>>> unionised and the trade unions are their major source of income.
>>>>>>> Also they still live in a time warp dating back to the early part
>>>>>>> of the twentieth century, when only rich toffs drove cars. The
>>>>>>> proleteriat rode bikes, used buses or travelled 3rd class on
>>>>>>> railways.
>>>>>> It's part of the answer, but not all of it.
>>>>>> The further answer is that Labour has always been wedded to
>>>>>> quasi-religious views of the world, with pat faux-rationalisations
>>>>>> and prescriptions for every social phenomenon.
>>>>>> You can see the advantage. Once formulated, the "catechism" can
>>>>>> easily be imparted to the ultra-faithful (councillors, senior
>>>>>> officer of councils, etc) and disseminated to the more docile
>>>>>> sections of the population who prefer to let Labour do their
>>>>>> thinking for them. The 'Boxer' effect...
>>>>>>> Many bicycles these days are actually very expensive fashion
>>>>>>> accessories for rich yuppies. The middle and lower classes now
>>>>>>> drive around in cars, because this is the most practical way of
>>>>>>> getting around and doing your shopping, now little local corner
>>>>>>> shops have mostly been closed down in favour of our-of-town
>>>>>>> supermarkets...
>>>>>> ...though only because they are an improvement on the corner shop
>>>>>> (something a true believer absolutely *will not* hear).
>>>>> Stores like Tesco Express wil be the final nail in the coffin for
>>>>> the corner shop - and quite right too.
>>>> Aren't you a "corner shop"?
>>> I'm a small independant trader yes, but not in retail.
>>>
>>> Several large companies have tried to lauch handyman services &
>>> failed. B&Q for one.
>>>
>>> I'm more efficient at giving the customer what they want. Corner
>>> shops aren't.
>>>
>> What would that be, for corner shops, and why can't corner shops do it
>> now? They have been around for a long time, after all.
>
> They simply didn't - or couldn't respond to a changing market. Tesco et al
> are incredibly successful because they know what their customers want &
> provide it.

Ah... but according to the fount of all knowledge (mileburner), the customers
aren't entitled to have it unless he approves. And he doesn't.
From: JNugent on
Brimstone wrote:
> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message
> news:AvWdnUdNlegXMWvWnZ2dnUVZ7qudnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
>>
>> Not many people have travelled into Central London (from outside it,
>> obviously) for their grocery shopping since the days of Samuel Pepys,
>> surely?
>>
> Is one suggesting that one does not shop at Fortnum & Mason (sniff)?

LOL
From: Peter Keller on
On Fri, 21 May 2010 23:24:20 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:


>
> "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself riding a push bike can
> count himself as a failure." (To mangle a quote attributed to Squashme).

Thank you for the compliment.

What an honour to be called a failure by you.

Peter

From: JNugent on
ChelseaTractorMan wrote:
> On 21 May 2010 16:08:00 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sheffield council refused them planning permission, insisting the store
>> was in the city centre.
>>
>> Ikea said "Oh. Well, in that case..." and abandoned plans to build a
>> store in Sheffield at all. So people from Sheffield have to go to
>> Nottingham or Leeds if they want to visit Ikea.
>
> so should we let business build wherever they like?

Absolutely not.

But having a flat-ffoted policy of insisting that all retail development
takes place in a city-centre fails to pass the test of - and I use this
phrase very deliberately - *Wednesbury reasonableness*.