From: DanB on
"SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DanB <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>

Awesome :-) I think it is clear we're not going to agree heh. I think
you'd be mad to get a 17" of anything, if you were ever planning on taking
it anywhere, I can't stand 17" laptops - you may as well just get a desktop.

I was merely showing the Mac hardware was very expensive - as you could get
a lot more of the same qualty components, for the same money if you had a
PC.

The Mac uses most of the same stuff as the Dell, CPU, RAM, Hard drives etc,
if you configure the Dell to a similar spec of the Apple it will get similar
battery life - but cost several hundred quid less. Reviews for other M1730s
show up to 4 hours on the older, none-SLI gfx ones - but they had a slightly
less powerful CPU. Still powerful GFX, 4gb Ram etc though.

Or if you keep the costs the same, if you really want you can crack a copy
of OSX onto the Dell[1] - then you'd have the worlds greatest OS, on a more
powerful machine - then you'd be happy both ways :) Or if you reduce the
spec of Dell to that of the Mac, then put OSX on, you'd have the same
thing - but also several hundred quid in your pocket.

Or would this defeat the point because then no one would know you preferred
Macs ;-)


[1] I have no idea if this is possible but please, don't elaborate on it,
we've wasted enough bandwidth on an un-endable argument.
--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65


From: Depresion on

"DanB" <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well neither of them are going to be any good battery life wise, the XPS
> has a 9 cell and reviews are saying anywhere between 1 1/2 and 2 hours on
> the standard battery are to be expected - which is actually a lot better
> than I expected heh, especially from something so powerful with 2 GFX
> cards. Macworld.com suggests up to 3 hours for the Macbook, again better
> than I thought. But as these 17" laptop are such beasts anyway they;ll
> both doubtlessly spend most of their time plugged in. XPS is about a kg
> heavier than the Macbook as well, but as I say, they're very sturdy next to
> all the other Dells heh. You wouldn't exactly buy either of them though if
> you were going to be moving them around a lot and carrying them with you.
> Shame you can't spec a 15" XPS to that power really heh.

Better still the 13", I'm more than happy with my 12.1 inchis (Err can I sat
that?)

> The problem with the XPS is I'd get into the old "Well if I'm spending
> nearly 2 grand anyway... and it'd get some more upgrades as well... Then
> suddenly it'd be �2,800.

http://www.techradar.com/products/computing/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops/dpc-tech-frankenstein-328074/review

Why settle for less.


From: DanB on
"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>
> "DanB" <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:6f1n4rF97p5oU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Well neither of them are going to be any good battery life wise, the XPS
>> has a 9 cell and reviews are saying anywhere between 1 1/2 and 2 hours on
>> the standard battery are to be expected - which is actually a lot better
>> than I expected heh, especially from something so powerful with 2 GFX
>> cards. Macworld.com suggests up to 3 hours for the Macbook, again better
>> than I thought. But as these 17" laptop are such beasts anyway they;ll
>> both doubtlessly spend most of their time plugged in. XPS is about a kg
>> heavier than the Macbook as well, but as I say, they're very sturdy next
>> to all the other Dells heh. You wouldn't exactly buy either of them
>> though if you were going to be moving them around a lot and carrying them
>> with you. Shame you can't spec a 15" XPS to that power really heh.
>
> Better still the 13", I'm more than happy with my 12.1 inchis (Err can I
> sat that?)
>
>> The problem with the XPS is I'd get into the old "Well if I'm spending
>> nearly 2 grand anyway... and it'd get some more upgrades as well... Then
>> suddenly it'd be �2,800.
>
> http://www.techradar.com/products/computing/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops/dpc-tech-frankenstein-328074/review
>
> Why settle for less.

I have been perilously close to ordering an Alienware 15.4" beast. I'm one
of those people who likes to buy stuff to cheer themselves up, the amount I
spend is directly proportionate to how sad I'm feeling. The laptop I
specced was �2,800... If I only I could spec a 15.4" XPS with a 8800GTX :'(

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65


From: Tim S Kemp on
SteveH wrote:
> RAM is cheap as chips to add these days, and OSX is better at managing
> the memory it has than Windows, so that's a non-issue.

Ram on Windows is a non-issue. I've just ordered two Windows boxes with 8
cores and 16 gig of ram...

> Hard drive space is another red herring in the mix, as, once again,
> OSX isn't anywhere near as 'needy' as Vista.

Mainly because there's less available software to install...

Leopard lists 9gig available hard drive required for installation. Vista
needs 15gig.


From: Tim S Kemp on
SteveH wrote:

> As for the GFX stuff, great if you're a games player, but who buys a
> MacBook for gaming? - in fact, who buys any 'pro' laptop for gaming?

Ever heard of Lan Parties?


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