Convex external drivers side mirror
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From: Atheist Chaplain on 22 Apr 2010 22:56 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bd0e2ff$0$27855$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 22/04/2010 10:53 PM, George W Frost wrote: >> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4bd01e9d$0$27852$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> On 21/04/2010 10:40 PM, George W Frost wrote: >>>> "Someone Else"<bogusname(a)smallpond.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4bced028$0$24251$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >>>>> >>>>> "Pete"<pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... >>>>>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm >>>>>> looking >>>>>> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does >>>>>> anyone have any ideas on who I can call? >>>>>> >>>>>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what >>>>>> seems >>>>>> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >>>>>> >>>>>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. >>>>>> How >>>>>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> That ADR reference is out of date. Get your hands on ADR 14/02. Key >>>>> words: "The reflecting surface of a mirror must be either flat or >>>>> spherically convex. Exterior mirrors may be equipped with an >>>>> additional >>>>> aspherical part provided that the main mirror fulfils the requirements >>>>> of >>>>> the indirect field of vision." >>>>> >>>>> I test drove a new Golf today - it has a convex external mirror - >>>>> quite >>>>> annoying when you've been used to a flattie for decades... >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have those smaller convex mirrors stuck onto my original mirrors and >>>> work >>>> with them all the time >>>> >>>> >>> That's fine if you have both but when you haven't got any flat mirror to >>> judge distance with it makes it so much more difficult. >>> The DAF I used to drive had a huge flat mirror plus a large convex >>> mirror >>> on both sides (all power adjustable and heated) which made rear >>> visibility >>> excellent in all conditions. >>> >>> >>> Daryl >>> >>> >>> Daryl >> >> I took a bus load to Melbourne last week and it had five rear view >> mirrors >> stuck almost everywhere around the bus and I found that using the convex >> mirror was easier than using the flat one when manouvering while backing >> the >> tandem trailer on the back >> >> > At least one person likes them then but the rest of us don't so why do > they fit the bloody useless things? > I don't have a problem with them when driving forward on the road but I > find using a convex mirror only to reverse into a tight space a PITA. > Most people find it very difficult to reverse a trailer into my garage > because the front door is offset to one side of the driveway and the > garage is narrower at the back than the front, who built your garage?? the blokes from the ettamogah pub ............ -- [This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International] "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi
From: James on 21 Apr 2010 03:34 "Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... > My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking > for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does anyone > have any ideas on who I can call? > > While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems > to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: > > <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> > > The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How > then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? > > Peter > All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build, including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors, although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being convex. Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers are convex? Not fun!! James __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5043 (20100420) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Sylvia Else on 22 Apr 2010 23:35 On 21/04/2010 4:13 PM, Pete wrote: > My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm > looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - > does anyone have any ideas on who I can call? > > While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems > to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: > > <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> > > > The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How > then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? > > Peter I'm not strongly motivated to look for the prior rule right now, but given the dates, it seems likely that the car complied with the previous rule, and was imported before the new rules came into effect. Sylvia.
From: Mr.T on 22 Apr 2010 23:58 "Atheist Chaplain" <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote in message news:4bd0f17c$1(a)news.x-privat.org... > I was actually giving that some thought today, still in the market for > something new to drive (as always but procrastination is becoming an art > form for me) I was looking at a couple of VW models and they also have the > convex mirrors, how receptive would the sales droid be if I said "If you can > replace the two convex rear view mirrors with flat ones you have a sale" > > Personally I think they might strain muscles getting to the car's mirrors > with a hammer and looking for the card of a local glazier :-) Of course they would, if the cost to them is less than what they would otherwise be prepared to give you as a discount. So why would you not be better off simply haggling for a better deal and driving to a glazier yourself? MrT.
From: Mr.T on 23 Apr 2010 00:01
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bd01e9d$0$27852$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > I have those smaller convex mirrors stuck onto my original mirrors and work > > with them all the time > > > > > That's fine if you have both but when you haven't got any flat mirror to > judge distance with it makes it so much more difficult. There must be a market for small stick on flat mirrors now that so many cars come with convex mirrors. Seems like the simplest solution. Maybe they are already available? MrT. |