Convex external drivers side mirror
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From: OzOne on 23 Apr 2010 00:24 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:53:15 GMT, "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I took a bus load to Melbourne last week and it had five rear view mirrors >stuck almost everywhere around the bus and I found that using the convex >mirror was easier than using the flat one when manouvering while backing the >tandem trailer on the back > I'm with you George...seems that the old heads here are incapable of processing the information provided by the convex mirror. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: D Walford on 23 Apr 2010 02:24 On 23/04/2010 12:56 PM, Atheist Chaplain wrote: > "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:4bd0e2ff$0$27855$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> On 22/04/2010 10:53 PM, George W Frost wrote: >>> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >>> news:4bd01e9d$0$27852$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> On 21/04/2010 10:40 PM, George W Frost wrote: >>>>> "Someone Else"<bogusname(a)smallpond.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4bced028$0$24251$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Pete"<pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... >>>>>>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm >>>>>>> looking >>>>>>> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does >>>>>>> anyone have any ideas on who I can call? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. >>>>>>> How >>>>>>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> That ADR reference is out of date. Get your hands on ADR 14/02. Key >>>>>> words: "The reflecting surface of a mirror must be either flat or >>>>>> spherically convex. Exterior mirrors may be equipped with an >>>>>> additional >>>>>> aspherical part provided that the main mirror fulfils the >>>>>> requirements >>>>>> of >>>>>> the indirect field of vision." >>>>>> >>>>>> I test drove a new Golf today - it has a convex external mirror - >>>>>> quite >>>>>> annoying when you've been used to a flattie for decades... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have those smaller convex mirrors stuck onto my original mirrors and >>>>> work >>>>> with them all the time >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That's fine if you have both but when you haven't got any flat >>>> mirror to >>>> judge distance with it makes it so much more difficult. >>>> The DAF I used to drive had a huge flat mirror plus a large convex >>>> mirror >>>> on both sides (all power adjustable and heated) which made rear >>>> visibility >>>> excellent in all conditions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Daryl >>>> >>>> >>>> Daryl >>> >>> I took a bus load to Melbourne last week and it had five rear view >>> mirrors >>> stuck almost everywhere around the bus and I found that using the convex >>> mirror was easier than using the flat one when manouvering while >>> backing the >>> tandem trailer on the back >>> >>> >> At least one person likes them then but the rest of us don't so why do >> they fit the bloody useless things? >> I don't have a problem with them when driving forward on the road but >> I find using a convex mirror only to reverse into a tight space a PITA. >> Most people find it very difficult to reverse a trailer into my garage >> because the front door is offset to one side of the driveway and the >> garage is narrower at the back than the front, > > who built your garage?? > the blokes from the ettamogah pub ............ > LOL, the block is a lot wider at the front than the back, from memory its 70ft front and 57ft rear by 120ft deep, the front of the house is parallel to the street so the sides are tapered, one side of the garage follows the house and the other follows the fence line to make use of all the available space. The garage has been there for 32yrs so I'm used to its shape but when I first got the new Hilux with the stupid convex on the drivers side its makes reversing a trailer into it just that bit more difficult and its already not easy. Did I mention that the roller door is only 9' wide which doesn't help:-) The carport on the other side of the house is a lot easier to reverse into as the roller door is a lot wider. Daryl
From: F Murtz on 23 Apr 2010 04:04 Mr.T wrote: > "Atheist Chaplain"<abused(a)cia.gov> wrote in message > news:4bd0f17c$1(a)news.x-privat.org... >> I was actually giving that some thought today, still in the market for >> something new to drive (as always but procrastination is becoming an art >> form for me) I was looking at a couple of VW models and they also have the >> convex mirrors, how receptive would the sales droid be if I said "If you > can >> replace the two convex rear view mirrors with flat ones you have a sale" >> >> Personally I think they might strain muscles getting to the car's mirrors >> with a hammer and looking for the card of a local glazier :-) > > > Of course they would, if the cost to them is less than what they would > otherwise be prepared to give you as a discount. So why would you not be > better off simply haggling for a better deal and driving to a glazier > yourself? > > MrT. > > Haggle it to the lowest then make it a further condition.
From: who where on 21 Apr 2010 03:53 On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:13:05 +1000, Pete <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm >looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - >does anyone have any ideas on who I can call? > >While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems >to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: > ><http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> > >The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? Ditto the current series Lancer. Real PITA
From: George W Frost on 21 Apr 2010 04:01
"James" <dotatdot(a)tpig.com.au> wrote in message news:4bceaa69(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > > "Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... >> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking >> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does >> anyone have any ideas on who I can call? >> >> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems >> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >> >> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >> >> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >> >> Peter >> > > > All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build, > including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors, > although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being > convex. > > Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers > are convex? Not fun!! > > James > Yes, I reverse small and large trailers using both flat and convex mirrors and it makes no difference at all. |