From: D Walford on 21 Apr 2010 06:46 On 21/04/2010 5:34 PM, James wrote: > "Pete"<pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... >> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking >> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does anyone >> have any ideas on who I can call? >> >> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems >> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >> >> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >> >> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >> >> Peter >> > > > All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build, > including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors, > although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being > convex. > > Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers are > convex? Not fun!! That's exactly why I don't like the Hilux mirrors. Daryl
From: Bernd Felsche on 21 Apr 2010 07:03 "James" <dotatdot(a)tpig.com.au> wrote: >"Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking >> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does anyone >> have any ideas on who I can call? >> >> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems >> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >> >> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >> >> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build, >including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors, >although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being >convex. >Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers are >convex? Not fun!! It's not even fun reversing down a narrow lane with the space-warping mirrors. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | If builders built buildings the way programmers X against HTML mail | wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that / \ and postings | came along would destroy civilization.
From: Atheist Chaplain on 21 Apr 2010 07:40 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bce9d5d$0$8753$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 21/04/2010 4:13 PM, Pete wrote: >> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm >> looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - >> does anyone have any ideas on who I can call? >> >> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems >> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >> >> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >> >> >> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >> > Good question, my 09 Hilux has a convex drivers side mirror and I don't > like it. > Not 100% sure about my wife's new Forester but I think it also has a > convex drivers side external mirror. > > > Daryl now that would be an interesting argument, refusing delivery of your car from the dealer because the convex drivers side mirror does not meet Australian ADR's :-) I wonder how that would go down with the dealer............. -- [This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International] "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi
From: hippo on 21 Apr 2010 08:36 who where wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:13:05 +1000, Pete <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm > >looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - > >does anyone have any ideas on who I can call? > > > >While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems > >to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: > > > ><http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> > > > >The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How > >then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? > > Ditto the current series Lancer. Real PITA > > Let's get this clear.... just the mirrors or the whole car? :) -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: George W Frost on 21 Apr 2010 08:38
"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message news:4bceb613$0$6241$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > George W Frost wrote: >> "James" <dotatdot(a)tpig.com.au> wrote in message >> news:4bceaa69(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>> "Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com... >>>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm >>>> looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - >>>> does anyone have any ideas on who I can call? >>>> >>>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what >>>> seems to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors: >>>> >>>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf> >>>> >>>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How >>>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror? >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>> >>> All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build, >>> including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors, >>> although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside >>> being convex. >>> >>> Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers >>> are convex? Not fun!! >>> >>> James >>> >> >> >> >> Yes, I reverse small and large trailers using both flat and convex >> mirrors and it makes no difference at all. > > Try backing a 40 foot trailer onto a tight loading dock and see how you > go, your distance judgment is way out, you can get used to it but it takes > a long time > > another difficult one is when you are offroad and have to back into > somewhere with obstacles(ruts and logs etc.) and wheel placement is > critical > > My new Prado has LH & RH convex mirrors > but it's SWB and will hardly be doing any real offroading > My 100 Series has just a LH convex and it's a bit of a pain in some > situations where distance judgment is needed, but other times it's good > because you can see the rear wheel as well as the whole rear of the > vehicle > > > Kev That's what they are for ""> because you can see the rear wheel as well as the whole rear of the vehicle"" |