From: D Walford on
On 21/04/2010 5:34 PM, James wrote:
> "Pete"<pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com...
>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking
>> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does anyone
>> have any ideas on who I can call?
>>
>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems
>> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors:
>>
>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf>
>>
>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How
>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
> All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build,
> including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors,
> although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being
> convex.
>
> Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers are
> convex? Not fun!!


That's exactly why I don't like the Hilux mirrors.



Daryl
From: Bernd Felsche on
"James" <dotatdot(a)tpig.com.au> wrote:
>"Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm looking
>> for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne - does anyone
>> have any ideas on who I can call?
>>
>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems
>> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors:
>>
>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf>
>>
>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How
>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror?

>All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build,
>including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors,
>although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside being
>convex.

>Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers are
>convex? Not fun!!

It's not even fun reversing down a narrow lane with the
space-warping mirrors.
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From: Atheist Chaplain on
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> On 21/04/2010 4:13 PM, Pete wrote:
>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm
>> looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne -
>> does anyone have any ideas on who I can call?
>>
>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems
>> to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors:
>>
>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf>
>>
>>
>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How
>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror?
>>
> Good question, my 09 Hilux has a convex drivers side mirror and I don't
> like it.
> Not 100% sure about my wife's new Forester but I think it also has a
> convex drivers side external mirror.
>
>
> Daryl

now that would be an interesting argument, refusing delivery of your car
from the dealer because the convex drivers side mirror does not meet
Australian ADR's :-)
I wonder how that would go down with the dealer.............

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From: hippo on
who where wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:13:05 +1000, Pete <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm
> >looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne -
> >does anyone have any ideas on who I can call?
> >
> >While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what seems
> >to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors:
> >
>
><http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf>
> >
> >The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How
> >then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror?
>
> Ditto the current series Lancer. Real PITA
>
>

Let's get this clear.... just the mirrors or the whole car? :)

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From: George W Frost on

"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4bceb613$0$6241$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> George W Frost wrote:
>> "James" <dotatdot(a)tpig.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4bceaa69(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> "Pete" <pjetson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4BCE9771.6070609(a)yahoo.com...
>>>> My wife's 2006 Honda Jazz has a convex driver's side mirror. I'm
>>>> looking for someone to supply a replacement flat mirror in Melbourne -
>>>> does anyone have any ideas on who I can call?
>>>>
>>>> While I was googling to try to find a supplier, I came across what
>>>> seems to be the current ADR for rear vision mirrors:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.fedlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/88A97BFF3124ECEDCA257257007D18BC/$file/ADR1401comp1FINALFRLI.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> The ADR says that the external driver's side mirror must be flat. How
>>>> then have Honda been able to sell this car with a convex mirror?
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>
>>> All of the newish cars I've driven lately of European or Japanese build,
>>> including commercial, have convex drivers side (and passenger) mirrors,
>>> although some (supposedly) have a flat portion with only the outside
>>> being convex.
>>>
>>> Ever tried reversing a large trailer using only mirrors when the fuckers
>>> are convex? Not fun!!
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I reverse small and large trailers using both flat and convex
>> mirrors and it makes no difference at all.
>
> Try backing a 40 foot trailer onto a tight loading dock and see how you
> go, your distance judgment is way out, you can get used to it but it takes
> a long time
>
> another difficult one is when you are offroad and have to back into
> somewhere with obstacles(ruts and logs etc.) and wheel placement is
> critical
>
> My new Prado has LH & RH convex mirrors
> but it's SWB and will hardly be doing any real offroading
> My 100 Series has just a LH convex and it's a bit of a pain in some
> situations where distance judgment is needed, but other times it's good
> because you can see the rear wheel as well as the whole rear of the
> vehicle
>
>
> Kev

That's what they are for

""> because you can see the rear wheel as well as the whole rear of the
vehicle""