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From: Man at B&Q on 11 May 2010 05:05 On May 11, 9:23 am, "Mr. Benn" <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:e1uhu5h7jefevi86ib5drn9iajbps7dop4(a)4ax.com... > > > On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:01:15 +0100, Harry Bloomfield > > <harry.m1...(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > >>You should always leave an adequate gap ahead of you. If none of the > >>drivers do and the one at the front stop sharply, you get sharp braking > >>throughout the line of vehicles. If just one leaves a sensible gap he > >>and those behind him can brake much more gently. > > > you are going to have to leave a lot of space in a lot of queues to > > allow following cars to brake gently when the lead car makes "a near > > emergency stop". > > You should leave sufficient space to be able to stop safely in the distance > which is clear. So now you are agreeing. Well done. > Inevitably cars will have to brake if head of the queue > suddenly stops completely Indeed, using normal braking into the sufficient space that you agree they should have left. Not sharp braking to avoid a collision due to leaving insufficient space which was your earlier description. > I thought that would be obvious to all It is now that you see it. MBQ
From: Man at B&Q on 11 May 2010 05:10 On May 10, 5:22 pm, "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> wrote: > "Man at B&Q" <manatba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:d8c952c0-b00c-43b7-9327-f60298151c13(a)k29g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On May 10, 10:26 am, "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> wrote: > >> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com... > > >> > On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX > >> > <hnkjqr...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: > > >> >> Why inconvenience > >> >>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need? > > >> > It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more > >> > "unnecessary" courtesy. > > >> No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the highway > >> code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason. > > > Letting someone out is not overriding the highway code. If you think > > it is, then you need to read it again, carefully this time. > > Where does it say main road users should give way to traffic coming from > side roads even though they have the give way lines painted across them? It doesn't. Where does it say that main road users must not give way to traffic coming from side roads that have the give way lines painted across them? MBQ
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 11 May 2010 05:31 On Tue, 11 May 2010 02:01:31 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> you are going to have to leave a lot of space in a lot of queues to >> allow following cars to brake gently when the lead car makes "a near >> emergency stop". > >A "queue", to me, implies slow moving traffic As L3 queues came up yesterday, I monitored the spacing this am on the A2, about 2 to 3 car lengths at 70+ :-( -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Mr. Benn on 11 May 2010 05:42 "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:25dc529c-d384-4f09-a616-ba8307db3f56(a)b18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On May 11, 9:23 am, "Mr. Benn" <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> news:e1uhu5h7jefevi86ib5drn9iajbps7dop4(a)4ax.com... >> >> > On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:01:15 +0100, Harry Bloomfield >> > <harry.m1...(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >>You should always leave an adequate gap ahead of you. If none of the >> >>drivers do and the one at the front stop sharply, you get sharp braking >> >>throughout the line of vehicles. If just one leaves a sensible gap he >> >>and those behind him can brake much more gently. >> >> > you are going to have to leave a lot of space in a lot of queues to >> > allow following cars to brake gently when the lead car makes "a near >> > emergency stop". >> >> You should leave sufficient space to be able to stop safely in the >> distance >> which is clear. > > So now you are agreeing. Well done. > >> Inevitably cars will have to brake if head of the queue >> suddenly stops completely > > Indeed, using normal braking into the sufficient space that you agree > they should have left. Not sharp braking to avoid a collision due to > leaving insufficient space which was your earlier description. > >> I thought that would be obvious to all > > It is now that you see it. I think there was some misunderstanding about what I meant by sharp braking.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 11 May 2010 05:48
On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:06:50 +0100, Mike Barnes <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> wrote: >And "it's easier" doesn't seem like a very good reason to me. I reckon "easier" can either mean taking a sloppy lazy approach or it can mean the task is made simpler. Simpler should mean less prone to error. I think there's very much two ways this thing can be done. It can be "I can't be bothered to drive around this other car" or it can be "lets help the other driver get out and also give me a clear run in". IME a lot of the people I see *not* doing it into my road fall into the zero anticipation type of driver or maybe the "me always first" type and end up baulked or causing themselves extra effort. This is the first time I have come across a thinking driver who is against it. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine. |