From: Zimmy on

"Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 10, 5:22 pm, "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> wrote:
>> "Man at B&Q" <manatba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:d8c952c0-b00c-43b7-9327-f60298151c13(a)k29g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 10, 10:26 am, "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> wrote:
>> >> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> >> > On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
>> >> > <hnkjqr...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Why inconvenience
>> >> >>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>>
>> >> > It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
>> >> > "unnecessary" courtesy.
>>
>> >> No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the
>> >> highway
>> >> code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason.
>>
>> > Letting someone out is not overriding the highway code. If you think
>> > it is, then you need to read it again, carefully this time.
>>
>> Where does it say main road users should give way to traffic coming from
>> side roads even though they have the give way lines painted across them?
>
> It doesn't.

Exactly.

> Where does it say that main road users must not give way to traffic
> coming from side roads that have the give way lines painted across
> them?

It does say that those with the lines should give way and that you should
not impede other road users.

Z


From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:34:16 +0100, "Zimmy" <z(a)y.x> wrote:

>It does say that those with the lines should give way and that you should
>not impede other road users.

so you are claiming the HC tells us to never let people out from side
roads?
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Zimmy on

"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
> news:ba8548c6-854b-4343-ac0b-ac9d4ddb0817(a)37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On 10 May, 10:47, "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Such behaviour doesn't happen in the queue at the bank or the
>>> supermarket.
>>> People go to the back of the queue. They don't position their shopping
>>> trolley near the front and look pleadingly at the person behind.
>>
>> On more than one occasion when approaching the queue with just one or
>> two items I have been ushered to the head of the queue and in turn I
>> have extended this courtesy for others.
>>
>
>
> Did you seek the approval of all the others in the queue - or was it only
> you waiting?

Indeed. Small minded people like the feeling of power they get from holding
up the majority of traffic in an area in order to let one car out early,
followed by misplaced smugness in thinking that they have done something
good, with no thought to the jam they are helping create behind them.

Z

From: Mike Barnes on
ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
>On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:06:50 +0100, Mike Barnes
><mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
>>And "it's easier" doesn't seem like a very good reason to me.
>
>I reckon "easier" can either mean taking a sloppy lazy approach or it
>can mean the task is made simpler. Simpler should mean less prone to
>error. I think there's very much two ways this thing can be done. It
>can be "I can't be bothered to drive around this other car" or it can
>be "lets help the other driver get out and also give me a clear run
>in". IME a lot of the people I see *not* doing it into my road fall
>into the zero anticipation type of driver or maybe the "me always
>first" type and end up baulked or causing themselves extra effort.
>This is the first time I have come across a thinking driver who is
>against it.

Perhaps the difference is that I'm talking about a quiet road where the
emerging driver doesn't have any problem that "letting them out" would
help with. Unless they're extremely impatient, to the extent that a
couple of seconds matter.

--
Mike Barnes
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:38:14 +0100, "Zimmy" <z(a)y.x> wrote:

> with no thought to the jam they are helping create behind them.

you think letting people out causes jams?
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
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