From: John on

"ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 May 2010 15:37:22 +0100, "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Why not avoid confusion and ambiguity by just driving on and let the woman
>>cross in the clear space behind you.
>
> because a bloody great Land Rover blocks the road nicely should
> anything come along, also the bus responded.
>
>>Were you desperate to receive a wave?
>
> Don't men stop to let attractive women cross on the subconscious
> belief that the women will come over, tap on the window and say
> "thanks, would you like a **** in thanks"
> --
> Mike. .. .
> Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.

I think your behaviour can create an expectation in pedestrians that the
traffic will stop to allow them to cross. They should learn to read the road
and wait for gaps - or use a Ped Xing.
The kids from my local school seem to think it is acceptable to wander down
the middle of the road - perhaps due to years of motorists giving them
priority.


From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Tue, 11 May 2010 16:51:57 +0100, "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>The kids from my local school seem to think it is acceptable to wander down
>the middle of the road - perhaps due to years of motorists giving them
>priority.

there certainly is a problem in that area, you have to learn to do
these things safely, but what if one day I did get a **** out of
letting a babe cross, what would you say then?
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Zimmy on

"ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> **this morning I stopped for a woman with pushchair, there was no
> other traffic except a bus at a stop in the opposite direction. There
> was a pedestrian reservation. Excessive pointless courtesy? Some would
> say yes. Some would say more dangerous than letting her sort it out
> herself. She was talking on her mobile (yep, crossing road with a
> child and on the phone!) She didn't notice I had stopped at first, the
> bus did and flashed as it started to move. She then crossed, I reckon
> that's an inattentive pedestrian in charge of a child got out of harms
> way. Job done!

I know of a case where a schoolgirl was flashed to cross the road at a busy
junction outside a school. She trusted the driver and ran across but did not
realise the traffic coming the other way weren't stopping. Two broken legs.

Z


From: loopy livernose on

>>>Why not avoid confusion and ambiguity by just driving on and let the
>>>woman
>>>cross in the clear space behind you.
>>
>> because a bloody great Land Rover blocks the road nicely should
>> anything come along, also the bus responded.
>>
>>>Were you desperate to receive a wave?
>>
>> Don't men stop to let attractive women cross on the subconscious
>> belief that the women will come over, tap on the window and say
>> "thanks, would you like a **** in thanks"
>
> I think your behaviour can create an expectation in pedestrians that the
> traffic will stop to allow them to cross. They should learn to read the
> road and wait for gaps - or use a Ped Xing.
> The kids from my local school seem to think it is acceptable to wander
> down the middle of the road - perhaps due to years of motorists giving
> them priority.
>

for me it depends on the weather.. (or how short her skirt is.. lmao)..

if I am in my car and its pixxing it down, I am comfortable and dry, so am
far more courteous of anyone still out in it.. also I make allowances that
pedestrians getting wet will "chance their arm" so slow accordingly..

however, having done the pushing of prams, and such, as a househusband,
(and then full time lone parent), I can actually appreciate how much the
kindness of a driver allowing you to cross (esp when child's a toddler) or
someone holding a door open when you have a pram to try and get through etc
etc etc.. can make your day a little bit more pleasant, I am all for
courtesy, in every aspect of life.. I hate driving when I am late, and feel
ignorant when I drive with only arriving at my destination on time as my
goal so I'd rather arrive too early and waste time at my destination than
rush and be an ignorant tw@.

the highway code is a set of guidelines (some based on the law), but its not
always something which covers every situation, each situation needs treating
on its own merits.. and just because you have "right of way" legally,
doesn't always mean you do morally..




From: loopy livernose on

"Zimmy" <z(a)y.x> wrote in message
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>
> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fldiu51mu3qfaptsh2k6a546v0foijjnln(a)4ax.com...
>
>> **this morning I stopped for a woman with pushchair, there was no
>> other traffic except a bus at a stop in the opposite direction. There
>> was a pedestrian reservation. Excessive pointless courtesy? Some would
>> say yes. Some would say more dangerous than letting her sort it out
>> herself. She was talking on her mobile (yep, crossing road with a
>> child and on the phone!) She didn't notice I had stopped at first, the
>> bus did and flashed as it started to move. She then crossed, I reckon
>> that's an inattentive pedestrian in charge of a child got out of harms
>> way. Job done!
>
> I know of a case where a schoolgirl was flashed to cross the road at a
> busy junction outside a school. She trusted the driver and ran across but
> did not realise the traffic coming the other way weren't stopping. Two
> broken legs.
>
> Z
>

there's a section in the highway code for pedestrians too.. so a car warned
her he was there, but stationary, and she didn't check the other way on a
two way road? I fail to see how its a drivers fault.. (apart from driving
past a school at chucking out time, the driver who hit her was obviously
driving too fast for the conditions...

I live right by a school, and 90% (at least) of the near misses are caused
by late parents rushing to collect their "little dharlings".. Luckily the
only "non misses" have been slow enough to have no injury, or a light
bruise.. but with the quality of parking I am amazed there's not been
carnage.. (again caused by parents driving to collect their children but not
wanting to park more that a few feet away from the entrance..)


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