From: Harry Bloomfield on
Zimmy formulated the question :
> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:1DZFn.20100$BX1.7996(a)newsfe16.ams2...
>>
>> "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:ba8548c6-854b-4343-ac0b-ac9d4ddb0817(a)37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 10 May, 10:47, "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Such behaviour doesn't happen in the queue at the bank or the
>>>> supermarket.
>>>> People go to the back of the queue. They don't position their shopping
>>>> trolley near the front and look pleadingly at the person behind.
>>>
>>> On more than one occasion when approaching the queue with just one or
>>> two items I have been ushered to the head of the queue and in turn I
>>> have extended this courtesy for others.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Did you seek the approval of all the others in the queue - or was it only
>> you waiting?
>
> Indeed. Small minded people like the feeling of power they get from holding
> up the majority of traffic in an area in order to let one car out early,
> followed by misplaced smugness in thinking that they have done something
> good, with no thought to the jam they are helping create behind them.
>
> Z

Letting those who want to turn right, from your left causes no one a
delay. Likewise, letting those who want to make a right when heading
towards you, causes no one any delays - yet so few do give up their
right of way.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


From: Mortimer on
"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:lchGn.44572$IA1.25085(a)newsfe06.ams2...
>
>
>>
>> I tend to flash as an "I will wait for you" signal long before I've
>> stopped - as soon as I make the decision that I will give way to the
>> car/pedestrian. The aim is that if I give them enough warning they will
>> be
>> able to complete their manoeuvre before I get there and I won't even need
>> to
>> come to a complete halt. I usually do a quick sanity check that *as far
>> as I
>> am aware* there are no other hazards, but all I am signalling is "I will
>> give way", not "it is safe".
>>
>> If I'm approaching a pedestrian and an oncoming car flashes, I will
>> always
>> try to stop, even if I wasn't planning to do so, because it requires
>> *both*
>> directions to give way in order for it to be safe for the pedestrian to
>> get
>> right across. It's one of the first thoughts on my mind when I see a
>> pedestrian waiting to cross - what if an oncoming car, for reasons of
>> courtesy, flashes to let the pedestrian across - what will I do?
>>
>
> See Highway Code:
>
> QUOTE:
> Signs and markings
> 110
> Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users
> know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other
> message or intimidate other road users.

Agreed. If there was another, universally-accepted signal in place of
headlamp flashing, I'd use it, leaving headlamp flashing for its proper
purpose as described in the HC.

But a signal of some sort is needed. "I will wait for you - you may go ahead
of me *if you judge that it is safe*" is just important as "I am about to
stop" or "I intend to turn left/right". Better to tell people clearly than
expect them to guess - that's when misunderstandings occur when someone
thinks that you are slowing down to stop for them but you are actually
slowing for some completely different hazard and will speed up again
afterwards.

From: Harry Bloomfield on
Man at B&Q presented the following explanation :
> Not letting people out could be construed as impeding them in some
> circumstances?

As in the 'KEEP CLEAR' which has had to be painted to remind drivers,
where stationary traffic frequently blocks side roads.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


From: John on


>>
>> See Highway Code:
>>
>> QUOTE:
>> Signs and markings
>> 110
>> Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users
>> know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other
>> message or intimidate other road users.
>
> Agreed. If there was another, universally-accepted signal in place of
> headlamp flashing, I'd use it, leaving headlamp flashing for its proper
> purpose as described in the HC.
>
> But a signal of some sort is needed. "I will wait for you - you may go
> ahead of me *if you judge that it is safe*" is just important as "I am
> about to stop" or "I intend to turn left/right". Better to tell people
> clearly than expect them to guess - that's when misunderstandings occur
> when someone thinks that you are slowing down to stop for them but you are
> actually slowing for some completely different hazard and will speed up
> again afterwards.

I am not always bad! In situations where I am stationary and want to make it
obvious I am going to wait - I clearly lift both hands of the steering
wheel.


From: Harry Bloomfield on
ChelseaTractorMan formulated the question :
> I wonder how many more people would be alive today if they had not had
> the crazy idea that a few seconds or a minute or two on a journey
> mattered? Or possibly more to the point, that their masculinity
> depended on being first and/or quick.

Time does matter to me, but not to the point where I cannot stop to
allow a grannie to cross, or someone struggling on sticks. Progress
when it is safe to make progress and a bit of courtesy, when some might
be useful.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


First  |  Prev  |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29
Prev: Green MP
Next: Motoring policy