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From: Bernard on 10 May 2010 06:01 "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:d1hfu5l0rdfp68vsc28u154293m5if4ror(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address> > wrote: > >>A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn >>right, and actually >>stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street. > > thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards. If the car waiting to turn right out of the side road is positioned correctly, it shouldn't make it any easier to turn right. Unless of course by making it easier you really mean, it make it easier to cut the corner off.
From: Bernard on 10 May 2010 06:03 "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:sCQFn.18992$3w4.14480(a)newsfe14.ams2... > > "Zimmy" <z(a)y.x> wrote in message > news:hs8jgh$8rg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX >>> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Why inconvenience >>>>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need? >>> >>> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more >>> "unnecessary" courtesy. >> >> No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the highway >> code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason. Imagine that >> every side road had the right of way onto the main road and the main road >> users had to stop. There is almost always a bigger queue on the main >> road. Given enough side roads the main road would hardly ever move. This >> actually happens on a street near me due to such "courtesy", so much so >> that it is faster to divert off the main road, onto the side roads and >> then back to the main road. >> >> Z > > People should learn to go to the back of the queue and not to use rat runs > to get near the front and rely on someone who wants a little wave letting > them in. Why? The roads are there to be used, unless access restrictions are in place, everyone is free to choose their own route.
From: John on 10 May 2010 06:05 "Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)btinterent.x.com> wrote in message news:4padnVMrofbzRHrWnZ2dnUVZ7qOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:d1hfu5l0rdfp68vsc28u154293m5if4ror(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address> >> wrote: >> >>>A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn >>>right, and actually >>>stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street. >> >> thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards. > If the car waiting to turn right out of the side road is positioned > correctly, it shouldn't make it any easier to turn right. Unless of > course by making it easier you really mean, it make it easier to cut the > corner off. Sometimes I drive up to a junction to turn right and find a car on the major road has set up their turn into my road so badly that they cut across my path as I approach the give-way line. Cutting a corner because there is no car there is bad practice as one could be approaching. I use the 'principle' of following an imaginary set of railway tracks - Tracks are always separated to avoid collisions. My principle has helped my daughters to learn to drive and be accident free.
From: Clive George on 10 May 2010 06:05 On 10/05/2010 09:48, John wrote: > "ChelseaTractorMan"<mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX >> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: >> >>> Why inconvenience >>> themselves and me when there's absolutely no need? >> >> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more >> "unnecessary" courtesy. > > Surely not - if it leads to chaos and risk to other road users - you are > missing the point a little. > > Personally - I don't like it when someone slows to 'wave me out' as it is my > responsibility to decide when it is safe and some of the people who try and > give way are not seeing the total picture. There are cases where it can help a lot. Recent example - long queue of traffic coming down a major road, minor road to left with a couple of cars waiting to pull out, also a car coming the other way on the major road waiting to turn into the side road. Slowing down a bit such that a gap opens in the queue allowing the car on the major road to turn off and a car on the minor road to turn on means the major road the other way is now unblocked and the person on the minor road doesn't have to wait several minutes. (it's busy enough that there aren't natural gaps). Pointing out that you're doing this also ensures they move swiftly rather than having to second guess if you're about to floor it and close the gap.
From: Halmyre on 10 May 2010 06:25
On 10 May, 09:31, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.s...(a)this.address> > wrote: > > >A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn right, and actually > >stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street. > > thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards. Not always the case. -- Halmyre |