From: Man at B&Q on
On May 10, 10:26 am, "Zimmy" <z...(a)y.x> wrote:
> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
> > <hnkjqr...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Why inconvenience
> >>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>
> > It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
> > "unnecessary" courtesy.
>
> No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the highway
> code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason.

Letting someone out is not overriding the highway code. If you think
it is, then you need to read it again, carefully this time.

MBQ
From: Brimstone on


"Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)btinterent.x.com> wrote in message
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> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn
>>>right, and actually
>>>stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street.
>>
>> thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards.
> If the car waiting to turn right out of the side road is positioned
> correctly,

And "if" it isn't?


From: Mr. Benn on


"Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 9, 6:06 pm, "Mr. Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2FBFn.13490$rS7.214(a)newsfe05.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>> >A bloke stopped his car to wave someone out of a filling station - in
>> >doing
>> >so, he blocked the path of a car that was turning out of the other side
>> >of
>> >the road to tuck in behind him - which blocked my path travelling in the
>> >opposite direction (on a clear road). He had stopped about 30 feet short
>> >of
>> >the car that he wanted to allow out of the filling station and became
>> >abusive when I beckoned for him to pull forward a bit.
>>
>> > Why don't these good natured drivers use their rear view mirrors before
>> > changing the priorities of the road?
>>
>> > Similar things happen regularly near a busy traffic light controlled
>> > junction. Someone near the front of the platoon of cars let though by
>> > the
>> > traffic lights will decide to stop to let someone out of a side turning
>> > (traffic light avoidance rat-run) - leading to cars being caught in the
>> > junction when the lights change. Again - a bit of sense and use of the
>> > mirror might lead to them deferring their good deed.
>>
>> I had some woman driving in front of me at about 30mph perform (almost)
>> an
>> emergency stop to let someone else out of a side road, not realising that
>> several cars behind her had to brake rather sharply.
>
> If they were keeping a suitable distance, and being observant, there
> would be no need for any sharp braking.

She went from 30 to zero in a matter of seconds. She was stationary, there
was no way I could also become stationary without braking! And the same
applied to the cars behind me.

From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:34:22 +0100, "Mr. Benn"
<invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>She was stationary, there
>was no way I could also become stationary without braking!

"oooooh yes there is!" :-)
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Man at B&Q on
On May 10, 2:34 pm, "Mr. Benn" <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Man at B&Q" <manatba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e418e573-04b8-4349-b436-82fad75624c6(a)n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 6:06 pm, "Mr. Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:2FBFn.13490$rS7.214(a)newsfe05.ams2...
>
> >> >A bloke stopped his car to wave someone out of a filling station - in
> >> >doing
> >> >so, he blocked the path of a car that was turning out of the other side
> >> >of
> >> >the road to tuck in behind him - which blocked my path travelling in the
> >> >opposite direction (on a clear road). He had stopped about 30 feet short
> >> >of
> >> >the car that he wanted to allow out of the filling station and became
> >> >abusive when I beckoned for him to pull forward a bit.
>
> >> > Why don't these good natured drivers use their rear view mirrors before
> >> > changing the priorities of the road?
>
> >> > Similar things happen regularly near a busy traffic light controlled
> >> > junction. Someone near the front of the platoon of cars let though by
> >> > the
> >> > traffic lights will decide to stop to let someone out of a side turning
> >> > (traffic light avoidance rat-run) - leading to cars being caught in the
> >> > junction when the lights change. Again - a bit of sense and use of the
> >> > mirror might lead to them deferring their good deed.
>
> >> I had some woman driving in front of me at about 30mph perform (almost)
> >> an
> >> emergency stop to let someone else out of a side road, not realising that
> >> several cars behind her had to brake rather sharply.
>
> > If they were keeping a suitable distance, and being observant, there
> > would be no need for any sharp braking.
>
> She went from 30 to zero in a matter of seconds.  

The same could be true if a child had run out in front of her.

> She was stationary, there
> was no way I could also become stationary without braking!  

You said "several cars behind her had to brake rather sharply". That
implies they were to close in the first place.

MBQ

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