From: Nick Finnigan on
Brimstone wrote:
>
>
> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hs9llg$gdr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)btinterent.x.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4padnVMrofbzRHrWnZ2dnUVZ7qOdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>
>>>> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:d1hfu5l0rdfp68vsc28u154293m5if4ror(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to
>>>>>> turn right, and actually
>>>>>> stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street.
>>>>>
>>>>> thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards.
>>>> If the car waiting to turn right out of the side road is positioned
>>>> correctly,
>>>
>>> And "if" it isn't?
>>
>> Then, regrettably, you will have to approach the turning more slowly,
>> ensure that the badly positioned vehicle has left enough room for you
>> to turn if you take an unusual path, signal later than you normally
>> would, and take the turn more slowly than you normally would. Which,
>> unfortunately means the traffic behind will close up slightly, but
>> they will be delayed less than if you had stopped.
>
> Which assumes that the emerging car has left enough room for one to pass.

"ensure that the badly positioned vehicle has left enough room for you"
But they always do.
From: Mortimer on
"Mike Barnes" <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:wLJKAbYt0B6LFwQs(a)g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid...
> Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address>:
>>A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn
>>right, and actually stops to let somebody else turn right from the side
>>street.
>
> In NZ, that's the *law*. It seems to work quite well.

Ah, I thought it was if you were going straight ahead on the major road that
you had to give way to traffic coming towards you on the major road but
which was signalling to turn right across your path. I hadn't realised that
you also had to give way to traffic turning out of a minor road onto the
major road if you yourself were turning right into that road.

In the latter case, I presume you have to stop further back than you would
in the UK so as to avoid blocking that exiting traffic.

From: Clive George on
On 10/05/2010 20:21, NM wrote:
> On 10 May, 10:47, "John"<Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Such behaviour doesn't happen in the queue at the bank or the supermarket.
>> People go to the back of the queue. They don't position their shopping
>> trolley near the front and look pleadingly at the person behind.
>
> On more than one occasion when approaching the queue with just one or
> two items I have been ushered to the head of the queue and in turn I
> have extended this courtesy for others.
>
> Ever heard of trolly rage, wonder what brings that on.

Too many trolls?
From: Nick Finnigan on
Mortimer wrote:
> "Mike Barnes" <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> wrote in message
> news:wLJKAbYt0B6LFwQs(a)g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid...
>> Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address>:
>>> A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn
>>> right, and actually stops to let somebody else turn right from the side
>>> street.
>>
>> In NZ, that's the *law*. It seems to work quite well.
>
> Ah, I thought it was if you were going straight ahead on the major road
> that you had to give way to traffic coming towards you on the major road
> but which was signalling to turn right across your path. I hadn't
> realised that you also had to give way to traffic turning out of a minor
> road onto the major road if you yourself were turning right into that road.

Neither, as far as I can make out:
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/whats-diff-driving-nz/whats-diff-driving-nz.html

Where there is no major / side road defined, give way to the right.

> In the latter case, I presume you have to stop further back than you
> would in the UK so as to avoid blocking that exiting traffic.

Possibly further back than you or I would, but further forward than most
traffic which desperately wants to cut the corner without looking.
From: John on

"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
news:ba8548c6-854b-4343-ac0b-ac9d4ddb0817(a)37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 May, 10:47, "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Such behaviour doesn't happen in the queue at the bank or the
>> supermarket.
>> People go to the back of the queue. They don't position their shopping
>> trolley near the front and look pleadingly at the person behind.
>
> On more than one occasion when approaching the queue with just one or
> two items I have been ushered to the head of the queue and in turn I
> have extended this courtesy for others.
>


Did you seek the approval of all the others in the queue - or was it only
you waiting?


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