From: Silk on
On 23/11/2009 20:30, Marc wrote:
> Silk wrote:
>> On 23/11/2009 13:22, Conor wrote:
>>> In article<5d1lg5didah8h3l4f445gtpoad037jge6l(a)4ax.com>, Ace says...
>>>
>>>> Or maybe it's just that most applicants are tick as pigshit? I'm not
>>>> saying they are, but maybe, eh?
>>>
>>> Judging by the standard of non-HGV drivers I came across in my HGV
>>> driving career, I'd say that there were far more none HGV dribbling
>>> inbred fuckwits than HGV driving ones. Visit any food factory and the
>>> number of non-HGV driving dribbling fuckwits outnumbered the HGV ones
>>> 100:1.
>>
>> Most people don't work in food factories.
>
> Lazy bastards!

Yeah.
From: Pip Luscher on
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:12:55 +0000, Silk <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>I don't subscribe to the view that learning to drive one particular road
>vehicle teaches you how to drive another.

But it does teach respect for another road user's situation, good and
bad.

> I know that lorries are heavy
>and slow and bikes are light and fast - both likely to be driven/ridden
>by morons and best avoided for similar reasons. What else do I need to know?

Someone recently made the following remark: "I mock those people who
poke fun from the sidelines instead of making the effort" ... to learn
a bit more about other traffic, obviously.

If you really want to be the best road car driver you can be then it
is only logical to strive for a deeper awareness of the road
environment. As this environment includes various vehicle types other
than domestic tin boxes, it makes sense to learn about, or better yet,
experience, their particular strengths and weaknesses.

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From: Catman on
Silk wrote:
> On 23/11/2009 17:49, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> on 23/11/2009, Catman supposed :
>>>> I drive a car, like most normal people. I just happen to be rather
>>>> good at it.
>>>
>>> Ahh sorry. Confusion there. Since you are pig ignorant and think
>>> you're better than everyone else, I thought you must be one or the
>>> other. Mea culpa.
>>
>> :D
>>
>> He drives a single class of vehicle, yet professes expertise in all.
>
> I'm an expert car driver - I've never claimed to be an expert in or on
> any other type of vehicle - please try to keep up. The only thing that
> concerns me regarding other types of vehicle is avoidance.
>
> I don't subscribe to the view that learning to drive one particular road
> vehicle teaches you how to drive another. I know that lorries are heavy
> and slow and bikes are light and fast - both likely to be driven/ridden
> by morons

Have you discussed this view with your colleagues in the biking sections
of the IAM, or are they likely morons as well?



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From: Harry Bloomfield on
Silk formulated the question :
> On 23/11/2009 20:19, Bod wrote:
>
>> If you were that good a car driver, you would know and want to know more
>> about M/bikes and lorries and how they may affect you and your car driving.
>> Passing a motorcycle test gives a car driver a better understanding of
>> what it's like from a m/cyclists point of view.
>> Believe me, it helps.
>
> Not convinced. If you want to know how to do something, you don't learn to do
> something else.

To be convinced, it really is one of those things you would need to
try. It would give you an entirely new perspective on defensive
driving.

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From: Harry Bloomfield on
After serious thinking Pip Luscher wrote :
> If you really want to be the best road car driver you can be then it
> is only logical to strive for a deeper awareness of the road
> environment. As this environment includes various vehicle types other
> than domestic tin boxes, it makes sense to learn about, or better yet,
> experience, their particular strengths and weaknesses.

Agreed!

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