From: Conor on
In article <heiljv$9mc$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Catman says...
>
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> >>> Conor submitted this idea :
> >>>> Until I learned to drive a lorry, I didn't realise just how stupid some
> >>>> of the things I did as a car driver were.
> >>> I agree car drivers (and riders) do do some really stupid and
> >>> inconsiderate things around lorries, but could you give some examples?
> >>>
> >> Sitting in the blind spot behind the mirrors? Pulling in sharply and
> >> making the HGV brake (not exactly limited to HGV's I know).
> >>
> >> There's two that spring to mind, but not from an HGV driver's POV.
> >
> > Creeping up the side of a truck that's actually indicating to turn, and
> > not appreciating what'll happen to the car/bike when it does.
>
> Ahh yes, but that's darwinism, not driving.

Indeed. Even before I started driving lorries I'd worked out it was a
bad idea.

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From: Conor on
In article <hei733$eq2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner says...
>
> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25764de4428e81ee989996(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <heh9tk$6si$2(a)aioe.org>, Silk says...
> >>
> >
> >> I think the implication is that the smart people already have good jobs
> >> and have no need to take an LGV test. That only leaves the thick and
> >> desperate - a bit like the Forces really.
> >
> > Many people who have got fed up of whatever career they've had have
> > taken up lorry driving.
>
> That *is* very sad.

Personally I thought it was mad too but then again, I was an electronics
engineer and vehicle mechanic before I started driving trucks.

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From: Clive George on
"Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.25772b26b383ecef9899ab(a)news.eternal-september.org...

> I'm not the one making a decision on whether its safe to overtake purely
> based on the status of the headlights of the vehicle in front.

You've utterly missed the point of the request.

It's not asking the lorry driver to say "It's clear", it's asking the lorry
driver to illuminate the road ahead rather more so the person wishing to
pass can see more and make their own decision on whether it's clear enough.

Sure, you've got magic night vision from years of driving nights. How about
considering those who don't?


From: Krusty on
Clive George wrote:

> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25772b26b383ecef9899ab(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > I'm not the one making a decision on whether its safe to overtake
> > purely based on the status of the headlights of the vehicle in
> > front.
>
> You've utterly missed the point of the request.

I don't think he has; he's just one of those people who can never admit
they're wrong.

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From: Conor on
In article <hej6jl$pdd$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Krusty says...
> Riiiight. Because being able to see much further ahead obviously makes
> no difference to how far ahead you can see.
>
Just how much further do you think you'd be able to see with enough
accuracy and certainty to make an absolute judgement?


> > Well I did 3 years as a night driver for Hygena, doing over 2000
> > miles a week, 1 year as a night driver for Parceline, a year for
> > Howdens Kitchens, again 2000+ per week and for various other firms
> > over the past 15 years.
>
> Did a lot of overtaking at night on unlit single carriageway roads in
> your trucks did you? No, of course you didn't. Which probably explains
> your point of view. It's pretty clear I've got substantially more
> experience of being in the position where I'm both willing & able to
> overtake everything in my path, on bikes & in cars.
>
No, I did it in my car, overtaking trucks on unlit roads which didn't
use their high beam.


> Because you're doing 40mph, & sticking to your side of the road, so
> don't need to see very far ahead. Surely even you can see the
> difference. And as I also pointed out, I don't need to use full beam
> most of the time in the cars either.
>
So why the whinge?

> > Oh, and I come from East Yorkshire which has proper dark unlit roads
> > unlike the street lit nonsense that you get further south.
>
> "unlit roads". Oh, & my parents live in the middle of nowhere in mid
> Wales, & once I'm past Gloucester, it's unlit country roads all the
> way. Dark enough for you?
>
Equally so.

> Bored with you now. If you'd like to point me towards some information
> detailing this weird law of physics where lighting up things doesn't
> make them more visible[1], I'd love to read it. But until then I'm
> outta here.
>
I'd like you to point out anywhere where it says it makes overtaking
safer.


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