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From: Conor on 26 Nov 2009 07:03 In article <ae9d608e5001b71b429f47edd01d7b49(a)blakeley.plus.com>, boots says... > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:31:52 -0700 in uk.rec.motorcycles, > vulgarandmischevious says: > > >Can we just skip a few steps and go straight to death threats? This > >thread is a bit boring now. > > Lets be fair, you're not likely to get an intellectual argument from > Conor et al Says the anonymous troll. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Pete Fisher on 26 Nov 2009 07:06 In communiqu� <helfms$ceg$2(a)aioe.org>, Silk <me(a)privacy.net> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >On 26/11/2009 07:17, The Older Gentleman wrote: >> <snip> >> >> General observation: why is privacy.net the last refuge of complete >> tossers? Think Spacker on upce. > >Having a go at the method one uses to post on Usenet is the last refuge >of the loser of the argument. > I'm still waiting for a response to my request for clarification of terms used in your argument. I also always have more respect for the arguments of someone who doesn't try to totally disguise their identity. For all I know you are just some pathetic tosser's sock puppet. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Clive George on 26 Nov 2009 07:42 "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.2578814172dacc5b9899b9(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In article <ivqdnepMpbTm9pPWnZ2dnUVZ8l6dnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, Clive > George says... > >> On a road you've never driven before? > > Yes. Or one that I've maybe been down once or twice in my entire driving > career but not enough to know sufficiently. Let's remind you of what you said: >> > When I go out on a night now, I never overtake anything? Strange I can >> > recall overtaking EVERYTHING on the way back from Bridlington to >> > Driffield on Sunday night. So, you've only done the road from Bridlington to Driffield once or twice have you? >> Oh, no, it's one local to you you know >> very well. > > That's an assumption you've chosen to make. Yes, based on the fact you claim to live in Driffield. >> Yes, full beams from the person in front won't be as >> much extra help as they are on an unknown road. > > Fullbeams on the vehicle in front are actually more of a hinderance to > me. They prevent me from being able to see the light spread of an > oncoming vehicle from a distance or vehicles in the distance which serve > both to let me know they're there and also the path the road takes. Maybe you're driving more populated roads than the ones I'm thinking of. The times I've found it helpful to have the vehicle in front use full beam have no other vehicles around to show me the path the road takes. I agree if there are other vehicles there, either oncoming or in the same direction ahead of us it makes it easier to see where the road goes.
From: leandr42 on 26 Nov 2009 09:00 On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:44:59 -0000, <boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:09:50 -0000 > leandr42 <leandr42(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> Maybe your motorway history needs a bit of work as well. The M1 (more or >> less the first to be built) does have long straight stretches, but good >> practice now considers curves to be safer. > > So does the M40 but its a small minority of its overall length. > >> "Uniquely among Britain's motorways, the M1 contains very long, straight >> stretches. The design reflected how easy it was for the government to >> acquire land - five houses were demolished to make way for the first >> 72-mile stretch and there were two protests. On later motorways it was >> considered safer to build curves to help drivers concentrate." > > A load of political drivel probably used as a cover for the real reason > which > was to save money buying the cheapest land possible - an empty field > would be > a lot cheaper and less hassle than a house. Anyone who says a curved > road is > safer than a straight one and would make the slightest difference to > whether > a driver falls asleep at the wheel or not is a liar or a buffoon. Or in > the > case of politicians probably both. Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I don't think you're right. I read about this in an article on building the M4 where the engineer was terribly proud of the way they'd avoided long straight sections. IIRC they were given a corridor in to which to fit the route, and the exact choice of line was up to them. I doubt if a curved motorway is any cheaper, as it must inevitably be longer, the shortest distance between two points being a straight line. And if cost was the overriding criteria, the cheapest solution would sometimes be straight, and as you've pointed out, it more or less never is on new roads. -- Rob
From: boltar2003 on 26 Nov 2009 09:50
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:00:57 -0000 leandr42 <leandr42(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I don't think you're right. I Well I doubt everyone who falls asleep at the wheel does so on straight roads unless theres statistics that prove otherwise. >read about this in an article on building the M4 where the engineer was >terribly proud of the way they'd avoided long straight sections. IIRC they Sounds like an idiot. A road is meant to get people and goods from A to B as quickly as possible, not be a work of art to please planners. >were given a corridor in to which to fit the route, and the exact choice >of line was up to them. I doubt if a curved motorway is any cheaper, as it >must inevitably be longer, the shortest distance between two points being >a straight line. And if cost was the overriding criteria, the cheapest >solution would sometimes be straight, and as you've pointed out, it more >or less never is on new roads. As I said - if there are obstacles in the way the cheapest solution is to build through the cheapest obstacles and around the more expensive ones. Another reason which springs to mind is the nanny state probably thinking people would use long straight sections as drag strips. B2003 |