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From: The Medway Handyman on 3 Dec 2009 13:17 paul george wrote: > On 3 Dec, 13:32, Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> The whole point of my pedantry on this was because the "Cyclists >> don't pay VED" (and "VED" has only recently replaced the more >> emotive "road tax" in this thread) statement is inferring, and I am >> quite sure the Medway Handyman believes it, that cyclists are a >> separate race inferior to motorists and have no, or much less, right >> to be on the road because the government chooses not to levy the >> same tax on a cycle as it does on the majority of motor vehicles. > > I don't agree that it is because cycles are not subject to VED. > That is just a convenient stick with which to beat cyclists. > If cyclists were licenced, taxed, insured, MOT'd and plated > bigots like Medway would just find another stick. No, I'd be delighted. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: The Medway Handyman on 3 Dec 2009 13:44 mileburner wrote: > "Peter Grange" <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:pa3eh51u34vddbqelfnu412tlqb92nqlbc(a)4ax.com... >> Read what you said. "Cyclists don't pay it" No qualification, just >> that. Introducing qualifications later doesn't affect what you said. >> I am a cyclist, I pay VED. I am a motorist, you are a motorist, we >> pay VED. The difference being I am a cyclist as well. We are not a >> separate race, some of us do both. > > I am a cyclist and I pay VED. > > Is that so hard for a non-cycling motorist to understand? Is it too hard to understand that you don't pay a 'specific' tax to cycle? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: mileburner on 3 Dec 2009 13:56 "johnwright" <""john\"@no spam here.com"> wrote in message news:7nqafcF3nossoU2(a)mid.individual.net... > > The Government does not believe in ring fencing. If you remember, when the > truckers were campaigning for a reduction in fuel tax, Tony Blair said > "Which school or hospital do you want me to close?" This demonstrates the > lack of linkage. One can compare amounts but that is all. Which goes to show what a bunch of selfish stingy mean c**ts the truckers are.
From: The Medway Handyman on 3 Dec 2009 13:59 mileburner wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:xEDRm.11220$Ym4.4167(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> mileburner wrote: >>> The Medway Handyman wrote: >>> >>> Despite your weasel words, motorists have to pay VED >>>> (known to everyone as Road Tax) in order to use the roads. What >>>> specifically do cyclists have to pay in order to use the roads? >>> >>> Nothing! Because we do not pollute and damage the roads. >> >> But you do use them and clog them up, so you should pay more. > > I have yet to see roads clogged up by bikes. Come around here then, they are a bloody nusance. > >> But at last you have stopped lying & admitted you are a freeloading >> sponging cyclist. > > Freeloading and sponging because we use what are entitled to use? You are not entitled to use what you don't pay for. > > Are pedestrians freeloading sponging too? They don't use vehicles do they idiot? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: The Medway Handyman on 3 Dec 2009 14:00
Phil W Lee wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:57:14 GMT the perfect time to write: > >> Phil W Lee wrote: >>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered >>> Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:35:40 GMT the perfect time to write: >>> >>>> Squashme wrote: >>>>> On 30 Nov, 19:11, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 30 Nov, 01:02, "The Medway Handyman" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve >>>>>>>> Firth) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the >>>>>>>>>>> next pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride >>>>>>>>>>> where they belong. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get >>>>>>>>>> his hulking great car off the pavement and on the street >>>>>>>>>> where it belongs. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall >>>>>>>>> tell them off. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good luck with stopping him. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily >>>>>>> identified if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they >>>>>>> don't pay to use the roads. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unless they pay council tax. >>>>> >>>>> And income tax. >>>>> Of course ukt regulars just "know" somehow that cyclists (sorry, >>>>> "lycra loons") do not pay taxes. >>>> >>>> But the sponging freeloaders don't pay a specific road tax do they? >>> >>> Neither do motons. >>> >>> Most of them pay fuel duty (which is proportionate to mileage and >>> size of vehicle, although nowhere near enough to cover the cost of >>> the damage they cause), and most of them pay VED, which is based on >>> emissions. >>> Neither of those are a specific road tax. >>> >>> Do you have any valid points? >> >> Yes I do. Despite your weasel words, motorists have to pay VED >> (known to everyone as Road Tax) in order to use the roads. What >> specifically do cyclists have to pay in order to use the roads? > > Motorists don't have to pay VED to use the roads, just as long as they > choose something zero rated, or leave the thing at home. Pathetic. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |