From: The Medway Handyman on
paul george wrote:
> On 3 Dec, 13:32, Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> The whole point of my pedantry on this was because the "Cyclists
>> don't pay VED" (and "VED" has only recently replaced the more
>> emotive "road tax" in this thread) statement is inferring, and I am
>> quite sure the Medway Handyman believes it, that cyclists are a
>> separate race inferior to motorists and have no, or much less, right
>> to be on the road because the government chooses not to levy the
>> same tax on a cycle as it does on the majority of motor vehicles.
>
> I don't agree that it is because cycles are not subject to VED.
> That is just a convenient stick with which to beat cyclists.
> If cyclists were licenced, taxed, insured, MOT'd and plated
> bigots like Medway would just find another stick.

No, I'd be delighted.


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From: The Medway Handyman on
mileburner wrote:
> "Peter Grange" <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pa3eh51u34vddbqelfnu412tlqb92nqlbc(a)4ax.com...
>> Read what you said. "Cyclists don't pay it" No qualification, just
>> that. Introducing qualifications later doesn't affect what you said.
>> I am a cyclist, I pay VED. I am a motorist, you are a motorist, we
>> pay VED. The difference being I am a cyclist as well. We are not a
>> separate race, some of us do both.
>
> I am a cyclist and I pay VED.
>
> Is that so hard for a non-cycling motorist to understand?

Is it too hard to understand that you don't pay a 'specific' tax to cycle?


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From: mileburner on

"johnwright" <""john\"@no spam here.com"> wrote in message
news:7nqafcF3nossoU2(a)mid.individual.net...
>
> The Government does not believe in ring fencing. If you remember, when the
> truckers were campaigning for a reduction in fuel tax, Tony Blair said
> "Which school or hospital do you want me to close?" This demonstrates the
> lack of linkage. One can compare amounts but that is all.

Which goes to show what a bunch of selfish stingy mean c**ts the truckers
are.


From: The Medway Handyman on
mileburner wrote:
> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:xEDRm.11220$Ym4.4167(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> mileburner wrote:
>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>
>>> Despite your weasel words, motorists have to pay VED
>>>> (known to everyone as Road Tax) in order to use the roads. What
>>>> specifically do cyclists have to pay in order to use the roads?
>>>
>>> Nothing! Because we do not pollute and damage the roads.
>>
>> But you do use them and clog them up, so you should pay more.
>
> I have yet to see roads clogged up by bikes.

Come around here then, they are a bloody nusance.
>
>> But at last you have stopped lying & admitted you are a freeloading
>> sponging cyclist.
>
> Freeloading and sponging because we use what are entitled to use?

You are not entitled to use what you don't pay for.
>
> Are pedestrians freeloading sponging too?

They don't use vehicles do they idiot?


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From: The Medway Handyman on
Phil W Lee wrote:
> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered
> Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:57:14 GMT the perfect time to write:
>
>> Phil W Lee wrote:
>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered
>>> Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:35:40 GMT the perfect time to write:
>>>
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Nov, 19:11, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 Nov, 01:02, "The Medway Handyman"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter Grange wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve
>>>>>>>> Firth) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the
>>>>>>>>>>> next pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride
>>>>>>>>>>> where they belong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get
>>>>>>>>>> his hulking great car off the pavement and on the street
>>>>>>>>>> where it belongs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall
>>>>>>>>> tell them off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with stopping him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily
>>>>>>> identified if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they
>>>>>>> don't pay to use the roads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless they pay council tax.
>>>>>
>>>>> And income tax.
>>>>> Of course ukt regulars just "know" somehow that cyclists (sorry,
>>>>> "lycra loons") do not pay taxes.
>>>>
>>>> But the sponging freeloaders don't pay a specific road tax do they?
>>>
>>> Neither do motons.
>>>
>>> Most of them pay fuel duty (which is proportionate to mileage and
>>> size of vehicle, although nowhere near enough to cover the cost of
>>> the damage they cause), and most of them pay VED, which is based on
>>> emissions.
>>> Neither of those are a specific road tax.
>>>
>>> Do you have any valid points?
>>
>> Yes I do. Despite your weasel words, motorists have to pay VED
>> (known to everyone as Road Tax) in order to use the roads. What
>> specifically do cyclists have to pay in order to use the roads?
>
> Motorists don't have to pay VED to use the roads, just as long as they
> choose something zero rated, or leave the thing at home.

Pathetic.


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