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From: MasonS on 6 Dec 2009 15:10 On 6 Dec, 20:07, d...(a)telent.net wrote: > Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> writes: > > In article <cb415707-1c7a-4a8d-83db-688283f71829@ > > 19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > >> That's as dumb as saying that the molten iron in the Earth's core is > >> the same old iron from when the Earth was formed 5 billion years ago > >> (that's 5,000 million years) and we can therefore tap into it and pour > >> it over the planet's surface with no harm done. > > > What do you think volcanos do? > > Quite a lot of damage, if Vesuvius is at all typical. "No harm done" > is certainly not a claim I would have made > > -dan Yes, like there's a Vesuvius going off 24/7 like CO2 emissions are. -- Simon Mason
From: Steve Firth on 6 Dec 2009 15:05 MasonS(a)BP.com <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote: > I asked him how much energy it took to make his car, but he couldn't > say. If you did, I didn't see it. Perhaps you can post the message id so that I can re-read it in context? BTW, score one up to you for lies. It's not "I couldn't say" it's that I haven't seen the question.
From: Adrian on 6 Dec 2009 15:36 "MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> > I was thinking that earlier on when I was planning my holiday. I will >> > be driving my Alfa Romeo 159 to Estonia and then back through Sweden >> > and Norway in June >> What ferry route were you planning back from SE/NO? > None. I will catch the Hull - R'dam ferry as I live in Hull. The only > other ferry will be the Tallinn - Stockholm one. From Oslo I will drive > to Malmo and then to mainland Denmark on the Oresund bridge and then the > Great Belt bridge. <looks at Itinerary> Then back to Rotterdam? Ah, gotcha. We did Harwich-Esbjerg, round SE & NO, then Bergen-Newcastle in 2007, but they've stopped that direct NO-GB route now. Bloody cheap flights... > The tolls for those are around £80 Less than that, from what I recall in 2007. <checks website> 215DKK = £26 for Storebaelt, €38 for Oresund. Storebaelt is the more impressive of the two - we were massively underwhelmed by Oresund. There's also Lillebaelt - IIRC, that's not toll. > and petrol in Norway is £1-35 a litre! War on the poor motorist or what? No, not really. EVERYTHING in Norway costs an arm and a leg...
From: Adrian on 6 Dec 2009 15:37 "MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> >> > Yes, but then I'm not the one trying to justify my driving a big >> >> > engined car by stupidly arguing that a cyclist is breathing out >> >> > more CO2 than a 1.5 tonne car gives out. Say if I drive to work in >> >> > my 2.2 litre car, then over a year I will have burned nearly 1000 >> >> > litres of petrol, yet would eat the same amount of food as usual >> >> > and thus put on weight as my exercise has gone. >> >> Ah, I think I see where your logic is failing. >> > I would eat the same amount of food cycling to work and back whether >> > I was in the car or not. I know this as when I go on holiday I eat as >> > I normally do and gain weight, so you can take the food out of the >> > equation as I eat the same when I am driving or cycling. >> ...and that's exactly where your logic is failing. >> >> Maybe they should tax fat bastards more, and bill it as a green tax? >> Income tax %age = BMI? > Hear hear. They use up more of the Earth's resouces than thin people. > They eat more No, they eat the same, just exercise less, apparently...
From: Steve Firth on 6 Dec 2009 15:36
MasonS(a)BP.com <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote: > Yes, like there's a Vesuvius going off 24/7 like CO2 emissions are. I think you'll find that there's considerably more than "a Vesuvius" going off 24/7. And you will also find that volcanoes do more damage than simply releasing some CO2. So to claim "no harm done" with regard to volcanoes is umm, silly. As I'm sure the residents of Montserrat would be only too keen to point out to you. |