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From: DavidR on 7 Dec 2009 15:58 "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote > DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > >> The fascinating thing about the Top Gear race across London when Hammond >> cycled and Clarkson went by boat. Clarkson turned up hot & bothered just >> from climbing a few steps whereas Hammond still looked as fresh as a >> daisy. > > You must have seen a different version of the programme to me. Because I > recall the version where Hammond f'ed and blinded his way aross London > getting extremely stressed and angry. While he did this other cyclists > in shot were seen breaking almost every traffic law going. When they got > to Docklands Hammond was sweating like a pig, a pig being roasted in an > oven. With recall like that it obviously left some scars on you.
From: Steve Firth on 7 Dec 2009 16:19 DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > > > > What's "real" about sticking your head in the sand as you have been? > > So you're tellling me that Fiestas are regularly to be seen carrying 5 > people that have managed to stop all bodily functions? Am I? Perhaps you can point to the message ID of the post in which I made such a claim? > Ah well, I stand corrected. Do you indeed? > > Still good to see you hypocritically resorting to ad hominem. Makes a > > change from tu quoque, I suppose. > > Did you have some particularly good bottles last night? And more ad hominem, it just comes naturally to you, doesn't it?
From: Steve Firth on 7 Dec 2009 16:22 DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote > > DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > > > >> The fascinating thing about the Top Gear race across London when Hammond > >> cycled and Clarkson went by boat. Clarkson turned up hot & bothered just > >> from climbing a few steps whereas Hammond still looked as fresh as a > >> daisy. > > > > You must have seen a different version of the programme to me. Because I > > recall the version where Hammond f'ed and blinded his way aross London > > getting extremely stressed and angry. While he did this other cyclists > > in shot were seen breaking almost every traffic law going. When they got > > to Docklands Hammond was sweating like a pig, a pig being roasted in an > > oven. > > With recall like that it obviously left some scars on you. Admitting that you were wrong would have been honourable. As it is you decided to act like a petulant child, quelle surprise.
From: DavidR on 7 Dec 2009 17:41 "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote > DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > What's "real" about sticking your head in the sand as you have been? >> >> So you're tellling me that Fiestas are regularly to be seen carrying 5 >> people that have managed to stop all bodily functions? > > Am I? Perhaps you can point to the message ID of the post in which I > made such a claim? As a reminder, the statement you made is that there are certain cars that, if carrying 5 people, the car's emission is less per person than 5 cyclists. That leaves out two inconvenient omissions that I have included for you. >> Ah well, I stand corrected. > > Do you indeed? > >> > Still good to see you hypocritically resorting to ad hominem. Makes a >> > change from tu quoque, I suppose. >> >> Did you have some particularly good bottles last night? > > And more ad hominem, it just comes naturally to you, doesn't it? Still drunk.
From: DavidR on 7 Dec 2009 17:59
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote > "DavidR" <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > >>> Right. We're no "cleaner" than we were in the '50s, when we used to get >>> thick polluted fogs in London regularly, largely caused by the >>> widespread burning of fossil fuels for power, heating, public >>> transport... > >> Don't get confused (as the media does) by the distinction between toxic >> pollutants and CO2. > > I'm well aware of the difference, thanks. > > I just seem to recall that we used to burn somewhere around one metric > shitload of coal. We don't any more. > > Coal is made from... just remind me... Oh, yes. Dead dinosaurs. Carbon. > And when you burn it... Ummm... In fact, just remind me - oh, yes. Coal > power stations are considered to emit much more CO2 than oil or gas power > stations, aren't they? Err, yes, burning carbony things produces CO2. The *clean* you refer to at the top is a reduction of things mainly produced by undesirable non-carbony things. CO2 is irrelevant to the first paragraph. |