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From: ChelseaTractorMan on 12 Dec 2009 18:34 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:14:48 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Don't attempt to think, it is clearly beyond your abilities. However much >you attampt to twist it, cyclists don't pay a specific tax to use the roads. >Note 'specific'. you still do not understand the meaning of "tax". -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: DavidR on 12 Dec 2009 19:03 <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote > - Show quoted text - > Would it be OK if all of country's millions of bicycles, which would > be in VED band A (Fee = �0), got a stamped round bit of paper from the > Post Office and stuck it on their frames? Would that do it for you? I > wouldn't mind if it made van drivers gave me more respect on the road. Come off it, if people riding bikes paid a "road" tax, had "proper" insurance (given that the cover in domestic policies doesn't count in some minds), obeyed every rule in the book and always wore helmets and hi-viz, some "motorists" would still find something to complain about.
From: Judith M Smith on 12 Dec 2009 19:24 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:44:03 +0000, Peter Grange <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:02:12 +0000, Judith M Smith ><judithmsmith(a)live.co.uk> wrote: > >>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:06:45 +0000, Peter Grange >><peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:52:52 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >>><davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >><snip> >> >> >>>>Even better, HMRC should insist you cyclists pay your way. >>> >>>Well, why don't you put your stupid proposals to them then insead of >>>looking like a prat here. Post your reply, I'm sure all cyclists would >>>be interested to hear what they said. >> >> >>I have written with my suggestions and my MP is very interested - they >>will be taken up with the DfT: >> >>All cyclists over 16 who wish to ride on public roads must take and >>pass a written test based on the Highway Code and basic cycle >>maintenance; passing the test entitles them to a cycle licence and >>gives them a cyclist registration number. >> >>Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >>possess a cycle licence. >> >>Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >>possess third party liability insurance. >> >>Cyclists over the age of 16 must only ride cycles which conform to >>some required standards when on public roads >> >>Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >>wear a hi-viz outer garment (or slip on vest) on the back of which is >>clearly displayed their cyclist registration number. >> >>The cycles of habitual cycling law breakers will be confiscated and >>crushed. >> >>(With many thanks to KeithT for the ideas) >> >And you have every right to do that, but I repeat, why don't you put >your stupid proposals to them instead of posting like a prat here. I am sorry - I thought that cyclists may be interested in ideas which may affect their future. Is this not the case?
From: mileburner on 13 Dec 2009 01:09 ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:14:48 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" > <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> Don't attempt to think, it is clearly beyond your abilities. >> However much you attampt to twist it, cyclists don't pay a specific >> tax to use the roads. Note 'specific'. > > you still do not understand the meaning of "tax". A dirty word among small time tradesmen - apparently.
From: johnwright ""john" on 13 Dec 2009 03:11
ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:26:25 +0000, David Hansen > <SENDdavidNOhSPAM(a)spidacom.co.uk> wrote: > >> That's beside the point. Some people imply (and many believe them) >> that something wrongly called road tax is used to pay for roads. > > Taxes by definition are not hypothecated. I suspect its not a matter of definition more one of policy. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright |