From: MasonS on
On 25 Nov, 23:30, "The Medway Handyman"
<davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> webreader wrote:
> > Why do the police not do anything about the likes of these cyclists.
> > Yet again proof that cyclists get special consideration unlike
> > motorists.
>
> >http://tiny.cc/iOoJY
>
> Do you mean those cyclists who pay no road tax, have no insurance, don't
> have to pass a test of competance & don't have any visible means of being
> traced?
>
> Or did you mean those cyclists who get free cycle lanes that hold up tax
> paying motorists, ignore lights, one way systems and ride on pavements?
>
> Or was it the twats who wear half a melon on their heads & dress in skin
> tight lycra in girlie colours?
>
> --
> Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars
won't be paying for the roads next year.

More freeloading drivers>

First-year VED rates in 2010-11
Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee
Band B (101-110g/km CO2) no fee
Band C (111-120g/km CO2) no fee
Band D (121-130g/km CO2) no fee
Band E (131-140g/km CO2) £110
Band F (141- 150g/km CO2) £125
Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) £155
Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) £250
Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) £300
Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) £425
Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) £550
Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) £750
Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) £950


From: Adrian on
"MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars
> won't be paying for the roads next year.
>
> More freeloading drivers>

Hardly "freeloading".

Those rates are for the first year of a brand new car.

Even if you buy the very cheapest new car on the market, under the
scrappage scheme, you've just contributed £700 in VAT to the exchequer -
plus £55 in a "first registration fee".

And, yes, the ludicrous scrappage scheme does mean that the government's
made a slight loss on that trasnaction, since there's £1000 come from the
exchequer. But there's literally only two models of car on the market
that applies to - the very base spec versions of the 800cc Chevrolet
Matiz & 1.0 Kia Picanto.

> First-year VED rates in 2010-11
> Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee
> Band B (101-110g/km CO2) no fee
> Band C (111-120g/km CO2) no fee
> Band D (121-130g/km CO2) no fee
> Band E (131-140g/km CO2) £110
> Band F (141- 150g/km CO2) £125
> Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) £155
> Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) £250
> Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) £300
> Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) £425
> Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) £550
> Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) £750ved 2010
> Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) £950

Band CO2 (g/km) 2010-11 standard rate

A Up to 100 £0
B 101-110 £20
C 111-120 £30
D 121-130 £90
E 131-140 £110
F 141-150 £125
G 151-165 £155
H 166-175 £180
I 176-185 £200
J 186-200 £235
K* 201-225 £245
L 226-255 £425
M Over 255 £435
From: Dr Zoidberg on
MasonS(a)BP.com wrote:
> On 25 Nov, 23:30, "The Medway Handyman"
> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> webreader wrote:
>>> Why do the police not do anything about the likes of these cyclists.
>>> Yet again proof that cyclists get special consideration unlike
>>> motorists.
>>> http://tiny.cc/iOoJY
>> Do you mean those cyclists who pay no road tax, have no insurance, don't
>> have to pass a test of competance & don't have any visible means of being
>> traced?
>>
>> Or did you mean those cyclists who get free cycle lanes that hold up tax
>> paying motorists, ignore lights, one way systems and ride on pavements?
>>
>> Or was it the twats who wear half a melon on their heads & dress in skin
>> tight lycra in girlie colours?
>>
>> --
>> Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk
>
> The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars
> won't be paying for the roads next year.
>
> More freeloading drivers>
>
> First-year VED rates in 2010-11
> Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee
> Band B (101-110g/km CO2) no fee
> Band C (111-120g/km CO2) no fee
> Band D (121-130g/km CO2) no fee
> Band E (131-140g/km CO2) �110
> Band F (141- 150g/km CO2) �125
> Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) �155
> Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) �250
> Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) �300
> Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) �425
> Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) �550
> Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) �750
> Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) �950
>
>
Just cause there's a larger number of cars that don't pay any VED in the
first year doesn't make them freeloading.
There's VAT on the purcahse price - a couple of thousand on a typical
small to medium car in band A-D , plus 70p a litre in tax on fuel , so
about �7-800 for an economical car doing 12k a year.

That's paying their share and more

--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away"
From: MasonS on
On 13 Dec, 12:39, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
> > The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars
> > won't be paying for the roads next year.
>
> > More freeloading drivers>
>
> Hardly "freeloading".
>
> Those rates are for the first year of a brand new car.
>
> Even if you buy the very cheapest new car on the market, under the
> scrappage scheme, you've just contributed £700 in VAT to the exchequer -
> plus £55 in a "first registration fee".
>
> And, yes, the ludicrous scrappage scheme does mean that the government's
> made a slight loss on that trasnaction, since there's £1000 come from the
> exchequer. But there's literally only two models of car on the market
> that applies to - the very base spec versions of the 800cc Chevrolet
> Matiz & 1.0 Kia Picanto.


The Medway Highwayman doesn't count VAT and taxes that everyone pays
as "paying for the roads". It's all down to the VED paid and the
little paper disc to him, so in his mind, there are even more drivers
not paying VED, which puts them in the same freeloading bracket as
cyclists who also pay no VED.

--
Simon Mason
From: JNugent on
MasonS(a)BP.com wrote:
> On 13 Dec, 12:39, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
>> were saying:
>>
>>> The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars
>>> won't be paying for the roads next year.
>>> More freeloading drivers>
>> Hardly "freeloading".
>>
>> Those rates are for the first year of a brand new car.
>>
>> Even if you buy the very cheapest new car on the market, under the
>> scrappage scheme, you've just contributed �700 in VAT to the exchequer -
>> plus �55 in a "first registration fee".
>>
>> And, yes, the ludicrous scrappage scheme does mean that the government's
>> made a slight loss on that trasnaction, since there's �1000 come from the
>> exchequer. But there's literally only two models of car on the market
>> that applies to - the very base spec versions of the 800cc Chevrolet
>> Matiz & 1.0 Kia Picanto.

> The Medway Highwayman doesn't count VAT and taxes that everyone pays
> as "paying for the roads". It's all down to the VED paid and the
> little paper disc to him, so in his mind, there are even more drivers
> not paying VED, which puts them in the same freeloading bracket as
> cyclists who also pay no VED.

I rather suspect that he also counts the �1000+ (that's a low estimate) per
annum of duty (etc) on fuel he uses in his van as something to do with paying
for the use of roads.