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From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 09:25 Keitht wrote: > ChelseaTractorMan wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:14:48 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Don't attempt to think, it is clearly beyond your abilities. However >>> much you attampt to twist it, cyclists don't pay a specific >>> tax to use the roads. Note 'specific'. >> >> you still do not understand the meaning of "tax". > > 'Tax' is what he uses to fix things with. > Little nails. Showing your inherent stupidity here. That would be 'tacks'. Still, musn't expect a cyclist to understand the meaning of tax, since they don't pay any. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 09:27 Keitht wrote: > The excise varies but not due to road use, only what comes out the > rear end. They should tax what comes out of your rear end. You talk complete shite. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 09:30 mileburner wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > message news:SH3Vm.14785$Ym4.14761(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> mileburner wrote: >>> Halmyre wrote: >>>>> Would it be OK if all of country's millions of bicycles, which >>>>> would be in VED band A (Fee = �0), got a stamped round bit of >>>>> paper from the Post Office and stuck it on their frames? Would >>>>> that do it for you? >>>> >>>> Why would/should bicycles be in band A? (Answers of "because I'm a >>>> cyclist and say so", accompanied by hysterics and foot-stamping, >>>> are not acceptable). >>> >>> Zero vehicle emmissions. VED is based on vehicle emmisions. And Zero >>> is considerably less than required to be in band B >>> >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't mind if it made van drivers gave me more respect on the >>>>> road. >>>>> >>>> Van drivers don't do respect. Van drivers wouldn't give respect to >>>> a hearse if it was carrying their dear old mother to her final >>>> resting place. >>> >>> If they had the intelligence to be able to respect, they would not >>> be driving vans :-( >> >> No, they would be trying to run a business from a puch bike & >> trailer..... > > I was thinking of alternative employment, rather than the same > employment without a van to do it with. Oh yes, we could all become 'environmental consultants' or something equally useless. Everything you buy is delivered by a van or lorry. Every service you recieve in your house is provided by someone in a van -who has paid road tax. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: MasonS on 13 Dec 2009 09:33 On 13 Dec, 12:55, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > > On 13 Dec, 12:39, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > >> were saying: > > >>> The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars > >>> won't be paying for the roads next year. > >>> More freeloading drivers> > >> Hardly "freeloading". > > >> Those rates are for the first year of a brand new car. > > >> Even if you buy the very cheapest new car on the market, under the > >> scrappage scheme, you've just contributed 700 in VAT to the exchequer - > >> plus 55 in a "first registration fee". > > >> And, yes, the ludicrous scrappage scheme does mean that the government's > >> made a slight loss on that trasnaction, since there's 1000 come from the > >> exchequer. But there's literally only two models of car on the market > >> that applies to - the very base spec versions of the 800cc Chevrolet > >> Matiz & 1.0 Kia Picanto. > > The Medway Highwayman doesn't count VAT and taxes that everyone pays > > as "paying for the roads". It's all down to the VED paid and the > > little paper disc to him, so in his mind, there are even more drivers > > not paying VED, which puts them in the same freeloading bracket as > > cyclists who also pay no VED. > > I rather suspect that he also counts the 1000+ (that's a low estimate) per > annum of duty (etc) on fuel he uses in his van as something to do with paying > for the use of roads.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Like I said before, which he conveniently ignored. A multi millionaire cyclist could pay more in VAT on his new yacht than the Medway Highwayman will ever pay in taxes in his whole life. That's a low estimate. -- Simon Mason
From: Peter Grange on 13 Dec 2009 10:55
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:44:55 +0000, Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOO!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: >MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: >> On 25 Nov, 23:30, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> webreader wrote: >>>> Why do the police not do anything about the likes of these cyclists. >>>> Yet again proof that cyclists get special consideration unlike >>>> motorists. >>>> http://tiny.cc/iOoJY >>> Do you mean those cyclists who pay no road tax, have no insurance, don't >>> have to pass a test of competance & don't have any visible means of being >>> traced? >>> >>> Or did you mean those cyclists who get free cycle lanes that hold up tax >>> paying motorists, ignore lights, one way systems and ride on pavements? >>> >>> Or was it the twats who wear half a melon on their heads & dress in skin >>> tight lycra in girlie colours? >>> >>> -- >>> Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk >> >> The Medway Highwayman may be interested to know that *even more* cars >> won't be paying for the roads next year. >> >> More freeloading drivers> >> >> First-year VED rates in 2010-11 >> Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee >> Band B (101-110g/km CO2) no fee >> Band C (111-120g/km CO2) no fee >> Band D (121-130g/km CO2) no fee >> Band E (131-140g/km CO2) �110 >> Band F (141- 150g/km CO2) �125 >> Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) �155 >> Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) �250 >> Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) �300 >> Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) �425 >> Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) �550 >> Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) �750 >> Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) �950 >> >> >Just cause there's a larger number of cars that don't pay any VED in the >first year doesn't make them freeloading. >There's VAT on the purcahse price - a couple of thousand on a typical >small to medium car in band A-D , plus 70p a litre in tax on fuel , so >about �7-800 for an economical car doing 12k a year. Sorry, by the Medway Handjobman's rules VAT doesn't count. Only VED. You can't argue "We pay VAT, income tax, NI etc" or anything else. Only VED counts. (Except of course that zero-rated VED drivers don't seem to be "freloading spongers", not sure why that is but it's true, apparently) > >That's paying their share and more er, see above. -- Pete - The Tax Paying Driving Licence Owning Cyclist |